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      01-16-2008, 05:48 AM   #89
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No, the cars have a different final drive ratio also. The DCT car will rev slightly lower in 7th vs the manual in 6th at the same speed. You have to multiply the two gear ratios together.

BTW: I am glad they did put a longer 7th in the car. No need for the car to be buzzy on the highway.

So 7th in the MDCT = 3.154, and 6th on the manual = 3.354

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      01-16-2008, 05:51 AM   #90
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I always thought rotary dial phones were kind of neat, but I won't be buying one of those either.
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It's funny how new technology is not adopted universally. I love new transmission technology, but I refuse to use a PDA - I still write stuff down on little bits of paper.

To each his own. I understand why some people will always love a manual transmission.

MDCT all the way for me though.
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      01-16-2008, 06:56 AM   #91
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I always thought rotary dial phones were kind of neat, but I won't be buying one of those either.
"Manual" phones enable the user to feel so much more "connected" to the person they are calling though...
DCT is sounding suddenly quite tempting, actually. Maybe in an E93 next year...
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      01-16-2008, 07:05 AM   #92
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This is news to me as my GTi would have drop 3 gears quite easily when you floored it.
Ok! LoL , I know.
EDIT: Stupid me, of course it works with DSG too. Would be weird if that wasnt the case. I can always blame I was tired when I wrote it

I've testdriven Golf R32 with DSG long time ago. I hardly remember the gearbox other than the gearchanges were much smoother than SMG in automatic mode and downshifts felt slower than SMG.
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      01-16-2008, 07:16 AM   #93
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I'm hoping, from a selfish point of view, that the US availability is way out so I'm not tempted to wait, or go ahead with my order and have to say "aw sh*t, I missed it by 2 weeks!"
Gosh I really want M-DCT. I was told that I wont be able to get it and I didn't want to wait till next year to drive the M3. I think I want to wait, but hopefully since I'm at number 19 it will be available for me to order. I sure do hope cause M-DCT is looking more and more like a must have option.
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      01-16-2008, 07:18 AM   #94
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I have considered waiting it out too. Are any of you guys concerned about first year reliablity?
I was thinking about that and I am just gona have faith that it will work perfectly.
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      01-16-2008, 07:38 AM   #95
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Ok! LoL , I know.
EDIT: Stupid me, of course it works with DSG too. Would be weird if that wasnt the case. I can always blame I was tired when I wrote it

I've testdriven Golf R32 with DSG long time ago. I hardly remember the gearbox other than the gearchanges were much smoother than SMG in automatic mode and downshifts felt slower than SMG.
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7375/r32as9.jpg
No problem.

I won't beat you up about it like some others might. Your comments about the SMG felt like it changed quicker may be true (up to a point) because I also felt that when you flick the left paddle there is a very slight (very) delay between that and the gear changing, the actual shift is done at lighting speed but I feel that the bit prior to this was slower than I would have liked.

Could this be what you were meaning?
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      01-16-2008, 07:49 AM   #96
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hi,

good info, I meen overall with the weight

cheers!
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      01-16-2008, 10:22 AM   #97
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Now delivery dates - direct from BMW M GmbH!

Statement direct from BMW M-GmbH:
"Delivery schedule of the new M-DKT(DCT)... sedan and coupe delivery start March 2008 ... convertible follows when availiable...
...meens I get my new M3 March 2008 as my dealer says I get the first car he could order......I order next monday when the new tranny is in the bmw dealer configurator in germany...

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      01-16-2008, 10:23 AM   #98
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Statement direct from BMW M-GmbH:
"Delivery schedule of the new M-DKT(DCT)... sedan and coupe delivery start March 2008 ... convertible follows when availiable...
...meens I get my new M3 March 2008 as my dealer says I get the first car he could order......I order next monday when the new tranny is in the bmw dealer configurator in germany...

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Is that across the board or just for Germany?
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man bmw is making its cars WAY too complicated. 11 settings just for the transmission?! i can already foresee complaints by car reviewers.

i am sure technically it will be awsome, but do we really need such a complicated man/machine interface? that's a bit too much IMO
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      01-16-2008, 11:02 AM   #100
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5+6=9


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      01-16-2008, 11:05 AM   #101
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Is that across the board or just for Germany?
I think Germany and Europe...

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sorry i already corrected it
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      01-16-2008, 11:14 AM   #103
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How did SMG (and will DCT, presumably) deal with low speed stop and go traffic. In Auto will it shift into neutral when you come to a stop? How about in Manual mode?
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      01-16-2008, 11:59 AM   #104
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It will shift to neutral in both modes
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BTW: I am glad they did put a longer 7th in the car. No need for the car to be buzzy on the highway.
Is there any place I can read up on the technical aspects of gear ratios, etc? I've always been interested in that type of stuff but never understood it extremely well. How does a longer 7th help with the buzz, for example.
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      01-16-2008, 07:43 PM   #106
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My dealer called me and just got off the phone with him in Indianapolis. He stated that the US is taking orders for the M-DCT with production starting early as March through May. Initially there will be a very limited production. The price will be $2700. He went ahead and cancelled my previous production number my for a new allocation spot with the M-DCT with new projected production in March. I had the number one spot with a production number and was already in status 111 with production in the last week in January. Definately feel that my dealer is telling me the truth and hooray that the M-DCT is coming and I'm able to get one. I'll keep you posted when I get a new production number with the M-DCT.
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My dealer called me and just got off the phone with him in Indianapolis. He stated that the US is taking orders for the M-DCT with production starting early as March through May. Initially there will be a very limited production. The price will be $2700. He went ahead and cancelled my previous production number my for a new allocation spot with the M-DCT with new projected production in March. I had the number one spot with a production number and was already in status 111 with production in the last week in January. Definately feel that my dealer is telling me the truth and hooray that the M-DCT is coming and I'm able to get one. I'll keep you posted when I get a new production number with the M-DCT.
Are you serious? That's great news!
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My dealer called me and just got off the phone with him in Indianapolis. He stated that the US is taking orders for the M-DCT with production starting early as March through May. Initially there will be a very limited production. The price will be $2700. He went ahead and cancelled my previous production number my for a new allocation spot with the M-DCT with new projected production in March. I had the number one spot with a production number and was already in status 111 with production in the last week in January. Definately feel that my dealer is telling me the truth and hooray that the M-DCT is coming and I'm able to get one. I'll keep you posted when I get a new production number with the M-DCT.
Coupe or sedan? Congratulations btw
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      01-16-2008, 08:20 PM   #110
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Hasn't the Bugatti Veyron had a high speed DSG for a while now?
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