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      01-14-2008, 01:59 AM   #1
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M3 Invoice Price (my estimates)

E90 M3: $54,575 MSRP
E70 X5 4.8i: $54,500 MSRP
E70 X5 4.8i: $50,140 Invoice (Edmunds)
E90 M3: ~$50,200 Invoice (est.)

E92 M3: $57,275 MSRP
E70 X5 4.8i + ZPP: $57,150 MSRP
E70 X5 4.8i + ZPP: $52,550 Invoice (Edmunds)
E92 M3: ~$52,600 Invoice (est.)

Just estimates, don't sue me if they are wrong.

You could do this a million other ways too, especially if you average the percentage difference between MSRP and Invoice over all BMW models. Or maybe you could just do M models too (not sure if it'd matter). But I figure this is probably almost as good and I am lazy.

Now as for why you'd need this? Well you might not, at least not for a while. But there will come a time when its possible to buy an M3 under MSRP, so this might be handy then. Course, we'll have real invoice by then, but hey, I was bored.
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So these are your guesses?
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E90 M3: ~$50,200 Invoice (est.)

E92 M3: ~$52,600 Invoice (est.)
Makes sense to me.
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      01-14-2008, 07:38 PM   #5
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Seems Right cause theres not to high a mark up on M's
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M comparison then

2008 M5:
MSRP:$82,900
Invoice: $76,270
Mark-up: 8.7%

If we apply the same mark-up to the E92 M3:
MSRP: $56500
Invoice: $51978

Which is $150 more than mkoesel's figure after adjusting for the delivery charge (he included that) to which the mark-up does not apply. Close enough I'd say.

So, even when discounts become available, they won't be much more than $1500 or so since the dealer is only making $4500, provided there aren't any manufacturer's incentives, or you are not buying a previous year's model sitting on a lot, but with this kind of pricing I doubt you'll see that happen often.

By the way, for the 911S, the mark-up is around 14.5%, so $5k-$7k discounts are possible.
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Give me some time and I'll tell you the invoices soon enough.
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Give me some time and I'll tell you the invoices soon enough.
Way to go Tim!

You're just full of awesome info!
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Give me some time and I'll tell you the invoices soon enough.


Somehow we need to let the owner (or at least sales mngr.) of Newbold know how good of a job Tim is doing, going above and beyond any other CA I've ever worked with...

Most do not understand the importance of good communication. I may have to write a letter after delivery.


Thanks Tim!
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Tim's the man!
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Somehow we need to let the owner (or at least sales mngr.) of Newbold know how good of a job Tim is doing, going above and beyond any other CA I've ever worked with...

Most do not understand the importance of good communication. I may have to write a letter after delivery.


Thanks Tim!
+1

Good point on communication as well. It is very relevant.
Like I said in the other thread. Tim called me at work in the morning with the all the pricing. Very cool!

I'll drop some hints to the sales manager. I tend to go in every couple of weeks.
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Tim called me at work in the morning with the all the pricing.
Nice! I saw that...I woke up to Tim's email this morning on the blackberry, I went from dead in bed to

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I'll drop some hints to the sales manager. I tend to go in every couple of weeks.
Cool...good man. Thanks Epacy.
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I believe invoice is definitely less. More around $7-9k off msrp range! ... Someday these won't sell for MSRP and how could they make any money???
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Thanks guys. I would appreciate that big time. I'll keep you posted if I here anything else.
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Give me some time and I'll tell you the invoices soon enough.
Any more news on this?
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I believe invoice is definitely less. More around $7-9k off msrp range!
Um, no way.


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With factory discounts, and the fact that invoice is not what the dealerships pay to begin with.
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