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      01-20-2008, 01:15 AM   #177
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Nup, Canada is a parliamentary democracy - as is Oz. I totally agree, btw, read what I wrote. If the avg US household "grossed up" their payments for healthcare etc the relevant tax rate would be an eye opener to many. I have this argument constantly at work ..
Have any of the people at work changed their minds after having these arguements? I find most people are quite unwilling to be open minded, and to actually listen to an opposing point of view. But then again, I'm a hardened cynic.

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      01-20-2008, 01:44 AM   #178
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here in the UAE we have to pay $100,000 for a fully loaded M3....and you have no option to reduce options! and to add more insult to the injury, it come with sunroof not even carbon fiber roof!
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      01-20-2008, 10:30 AM   #179
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here in the UAE we have to pay $100,000 for a fully loaded M3....and you have no option to reduce options! and to add more insult to the injury, it come with sunroof not even carbon fiber roof!
You can't choose?! How anomalous - as the M3 coupe looks to be available w/ CF as the default option in most mkts.

I'd love to know how BMW AG's price model gets consolidated to overall profitability on a revenue/cost model (e.g. R&D/Sales %). Ya got to think that US sales are in-effect subsidized based on corporate overhead allocations and the avg price globally - I've seen SS's estimate of USD $93k, which does not seem unreasonable ...
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      01-20-2008, 11:16 AM   #180
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You can't choose?! How anomalous - as the M3 coupe looks to be available w/ CF as the default option in most mkts.

I'd love to know how BMW AG's price model gets consolidated to overall profitability on a revenue/cost model (e.g. R&D/Sales %). Ya got to think that US sales are in-effect subsidized based on corporate overhead allocations and the avg price globally - I've seen SS's estimate of USD $93k, which does not seem unreasonable ...
actually we do have an option to get customize our cars, but they take so much longer to order, plus you end up paying more....i know it's very f@cked up! all M3s come with sunroof cuz people here are idiots and think the more electronics = better.

when i bought my E46 M3 with 6 speed manual, i had to pay more since it was special ordered since all M3s at that time came with SMG.

in other words, if i want to buy the E92 M3 with DCT and CF roof(which should be standard), i'll end up paying more than $100k!!!

it'll be cheaper for me to ordered it from the U.S, fly to the states and ship my car back....or i can have my friend in the states do it for me.
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      01-20-2008, 11:57 AM   #181
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Okay, how about I have the exclusive right by contract to own this car when it arrives and I pay the balance to the dealership. Sound better? I didn't know there were so many lawyers on here

No lawyer here, just trying to keep things factual.

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      01-20-2008, 02:57 PM   #182
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all M3s come with sunroof cuz people here are idiots and think the more electronics = better.
Hmmm...that is crazy considering you guys get way too much sun as it is. I know I would have power shades if I lived in the UAE but not a sunroof.
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      01-20-2008, 03:04 PM   #183
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Nup, Canada is a parliamentary democracy - as is Oz. I totally agree, btw, read what I wrote. If the avg US household "grossed up" their payments for healthcare etc the relevant tax rate would be an eye opener to many. I have this argument constantly at work ..
SS both employer and employee pay
medicare/aid
income
local (state, county, city, real estate)
taxes fuel, energy, phone, cable
alcohol
tabacco
sales on most items
car registration

it adds up fast...

not to mention we are in hawk up to our necks, credit card debt, and no savings...and 50 mil w/o insurance and extremely expensive post HS education...and healthcare that ranks at the bottom of the list yet costs 2-3 times as much per capita...

we could learn from some of our neighbors around the world
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      01-21-2008, 04:47 AM   #184
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Hmmm...that is crazy considering you guys get way too much sun as it is. I know I would have power shades if I lived in the UAE but not a sunroof.
I also feel having a sunroof is less safe in the event of a crash. I don't want a hole cut into my roof. Does anyone have any info on the safety angle?
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      01-21-2008, 01:39 PM   #185
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I also feel having a sunroof is less safe in the event of a crash. I don't want a hole cut into my roof. Does anyone have any info on the safety angle?
No info but I've NEVER heard of a sunroof being a safety issue.

Sunroofs are simply for people who want to open up the top. Nothing more to it. They're not gadget freaks or non-speed enthusiasts.

They didn't want a convertible but they wanted to feel closer to the sky, so they opt fot the sunroof. It's relaxing to drive with the top open sometimes. Don't hate.
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      01-22-2008, 06:18 PM   #186
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DEAD ON with the forum estimate! This forum is the best prediction network on the planet!
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Majority of us were pretty spot on with the prediction. Those that were predicting $60+ are eating their words.
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      01-28-2008, 01:00 AM   #187
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With the current US to Can dollar relationship I'd guess about the same price as our cars wouldn't you? LOL
no way, 335 costs here 57k with sp/pp packages... my guess it'll be close to 65-70k base, once you add options it'll be in 80's
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      03-01-2008, 09:25 PM   #188
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Any news on e93 m3 pricing?

I have a 335 that will arrive in about 2 weeks but will back out if the price is right on the m3.

I am planning on some bolt-on mods that would be unnecessary on the m3.

By my estimate, using the sedan as baseline, I'm guessing just under $68k US.

That's borderline in the budget, but might surpass it with options.
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      03-07-2008, 11:06 AM   #189
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57000?it`s nothing!!!!

Here in finland we have to pay 112000euros for coupe and it is
about 175000dollars!! for same car!!!!SHIT!!!
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      03-07-2008, 01:51 PM   #190
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Here in finland we have to pay 112000euros for coupe and it is
about 175000dollars!! for same car!!!!SHIT!!!

Yes but you do have a unique language, that is worth $100,000 per car alone!
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      03-07-2008, 01:56 PM   #191
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I love it! The dollar is at an all-time low (just guessing) and we still get the cheapest cars!
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      03-24-2008, 02:25 AM   #192
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Okay i was wondering how much would the lease be for 36 months, 10,000 or 12,000 miles, and 10,000 down for the car being 62,000
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      09-23-2008, 02:47 PM   #193
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I just ordered a new M3 Coupe with all the options, and got about $2500 off MSRP, thanks to the pricing sheets posted on this forum. In fact, I brought them with me, and the dealer was impressed, and showed me his price book which had the exact same copy in them. In fact, armed with the price sheet I printed out from here, I was able to identify an option that was not on the BMW configurator for 2009.

So, this forum armed me with the facts to negotiate a good deal.
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