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      01-07-2008, 09:17 PM   #23
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OUCH....I'd be seriously PISSED. The valet service woud be seeing my car to the body shop next or the nearest detailer to get my car fixed pronto! That is just WRONG!
If you noticed the damage that is, which you might not depending on circumstances, such as if it were raining and you were in a hurry to leave. Or if your date was horny or something.

IMHO Valet parking is simply a flawed system. It is meant to be a convenience, but it is no such thing. It is neither convenient nor prudent to have a high school kid do clutch drops in your 60k+ car. It is, in fact, utterly inconvenient.

If I lived in an area where valet was mandatory, I would purchase an in car surveylance system (which probably doesn't exist off the shelf, so it'd be big $$$ in custom work).
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      01-07-2008, 10:18 PM   #24
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If I lived in an area where valet was mandatory, I would purchase an in car surveylance system (which probably doesn't exist off the shelf, so it'd be big $$$ in custom work).
http://obsusa.com/products.html

http://www.drivecam.com/

http://www.thespystore.com/carcam.htm

There are also many less discrete systems for taxis and such.
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      01-07-2008, 10:31 PM   #25
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http://obsusa.com/products.html

http://www.drivecam.com/

http://www.thespystore.com/carcam.htm

There are also many less discrete systems for taxis and such.
I like it! Especially the first one, nice. I'll bet you could record all kinds of interesting things with these.
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      01-07-2008, 10:52 PM   #26
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I like it! Especially the first one, nice. I'll bet you could record all kinds of interesting things with these.
Yeah...especially with that blonde in the parking garage!
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I used to valet as a kid and I think becuase of my love/appreciation of cars I NEVER did anything bad, hell I never even adjusted the seat assuming I couldn't really fit.

M3's are great but are relatively a dime a dozen here in LA. Unless I owned a Ferrari or Lambo I would NEVER have a problem giving my keys to a valet.
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IMHO Valet parking is simply a flawed system. It is meant to be a convenience, but it is no such thing. It is neither convenient...
yeah i couldnt agree more, it is very INCONVENIENT when it rains like hell outside or doing one a favor and warming up their car during a cold winter night because a couple has an infant child...

i must be missing the point, because surely valet service was only invented to park the "good" cars and the people who appriciate their cars. screw the other 90% who came in their fords and kias with only intention to actually eat, celebrate and enjoy their night out. why step out of the car and enter the buidling when you can park miles away and get a good gym work out ?!? very convenient indeed.

in the end guys, i think the best way to satisfy all of your needs is to simply ask to park your own car if you really feel the need to do so...
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sucks to see that happen to the R8, and thats the reason why i dont valet.
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why step out of the car and enter the buidling when you can park miles away and get a good gym work out ?!? very convenient indeed.
This is a typical American view. The vast majority of the rest of the world make do without valet parking, or drive-through this, drive-through that.
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This is a typical American view. The vast majority of the rest of the world make do without valet parking, or drive-through this, drive-through that.
He's a cop, what do you expect?
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No valet. Tipping them more for special service is retarded. They should be doing their job and not fucking up cars otherwise what's the point?
I think that paying a premium to a valet for not having your car messed up is one-tenth of a degree apart from organized crime...
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      01-08-2008, 10:12 AM   #33
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i must be missing the point,
You absolutely are. The point is precisely that the valet service has no explicit agreement to return your car to you in the condition it left in. They don't sign a contract or anything of the sort. And there is plenty of damage that can be done that will be invisible to you at the time you pick up your car.

Valet parking was founded on a basis of implicit trust and respect for your fellow man. It is not a new thing by any means. But that value is old fashioned and has long been forgotten in today's world. To think otherwise is naive. Sure, some people still hold these values true, but its a crap shoot - you never know who and you never know for sure.

Valet parking is spinning a roulette wheel - plain and simple.
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well said...i really dont want to get into a big arguement over nothing. like i said, in the end its your choice. i also dont want to get into how much my ex-boss used to cough up for "false claims" by idiots who want to beat the system. corruption works both ways my friend, only difference is the side you're standing on

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why step out of the car and enter the buidling when you can park miles away and get a good gym work out ?!? very convenient indeed.
I'm intrigued. How much of a walk do these guys save you?

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No valet. Tipping them more for special service is retarded. They should be doing their job and not fucking up cars otherwise what's the point?
Couldn't agree more.

This behaviour goes hand in hand with the spontaneous applause that I'm given to believe Americans sometimes explode into upon touching down in an aircraft - for a professional pilot, getting the plane back on the ground in one piece is frankly the bare minimum I'm happy to tolerate! No clapping required. (OK I might give the guy some loose change, if the currency is no longer valid at the destination).
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Bit of a win-win situation, really, for the pilot. If he gets you down in one piece everybody thinks he's wonderful, but if he cocks up and 30,000 feet and the plane drops like a stone, there won't be anybody left to moan at him!
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I used to love having the valet park my Ferrari at our local casino and I always asked him to give it some when he left, as it was the only time I really got to hear the engine and appreciate how good it looked from outside. In saying that, though, he was a really nice guy and I knew I could trust him.
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Bit of a win-win situation, really, for the pilot. If he gets you down in one piece everybody thinks he's wonderful, but if he cocks up and 30,000 feet and the plane drops like a stone, there won't be anybody left to moan at him!

Talking of which, on my way back from Dubai recently, the pilot tried to land then as we approached the runway we took off again. We landed at the second attempt some 45 minutes later! No reason was given, but when asked, the cabin crew said something had got in the way!! What?
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I fly small planes and sometimes when I'm coming in to land on the short runway, which crosss the main runway at Glasgow airport, I have to abort and go around again if there is something bigger coming in on the main runway. Unfortunately ATC do make mistakes and don't judge things quite right, or a plane gets delayed slightly while taxiing or preparing for take off, so a landing aircraft has to abort. To be honest, it's surprising there aren't more crashes!!
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Talking of which, on my way back from Dubai recently, the pilot tried to land then as we approached the runway we took off again. We landed at the second attempt some 45 minutes later! No reason was given, but when asked, the cabin crew said something had got in the way!! What?
It was Filthy, "waiting for the light to be just so" while taking photos of his new car...
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Talking of which, on my way back from Dubai recently, the pilot tried to land then as we approached the runway we took off again. We landed at the second attempt some 45 minutes later! No reason was given, but when asked, the cabin crew said something had got in the way!! What?
Damn scary!!
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It was Filthy, "waiting for the light to be just so" while taking photos of his new car...


Very nice.
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I'm intrigued. How much of a walk do these guys save you?

you would be surpised. most locations are very standard and truthfully you are walking distance away from the enterance even if you do park your own car. however, some locations the parking area is on the other side of the highway (Tulipano, NJ). others have a drive-way just to get to the enterance, if you want to park you would have to leave the same way you came in and walk back, which truthfully is an easy 1/4 walk, if not more (Pleasantdale Chateau, NJ). i even did private house parties in Alpine, where you park cars up and down hills for blocks away at a time. so sometimes it really does make a difference especially for people who are running late to an event...
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however, some locations the parking area is on the other side of the highway (Tulipano, NJ).
uhh not that it matters....but Pompton Avenue is not really considered a highway. Isn't the speed limit 35 MPH?!

And where do you park the cars across the street?
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&hl=e...&t=h&z=18&om=1
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