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      01-03-2008, 05:01 PM   #23
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Should I say Nissan Skyline 0-60 in 3.3 seconds for $42K? You are mixing your cars up.

The Corvette LT1 is $47,000 with 0-60 in 5.3 seconds.
The Z06 is $72,000 with a much better 0-60.

I would say Nissan GTR.... just so I can have all my performance under warrenty. For less than a Z06 too
So I was off by $2k for the 2008 'Vette. But, you're way off on 0-60...... The LS3 'Vette does 60 seconds in 4 seconds. Who is your source for 5.3? I believe it was MT or C&D who got it in 4 seconds.
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      01-03-2008, 05:56 PM   #26
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So I was off by $2k for the 2008 'Vette. But, you're way off on 0-60...... The LS3 'Vette does 60 seconds in 4 seconds. Who is your source for 5.3? I believe it was MT or C&D who got it in 4 seconds.
Notice I said LT1 is 47,000 and has a 5.3 0-60 mph, it was the 2007 model. Saw on Edmunds, I have no idea where they get their numbers.

From MT "GM says the 2008 automatic-equipped Corvette is the fastest auto-'Vette ever, with a claimed 4.3 second 0-60 mph run. Although official acceleration numbers for the manual version have not been announced, we expect to see a couple tenths shaved off its 0-60 mph sprint."

Still 4.3 seconds is a ways away from 4.0 seconds. and even further from 3.3 seconds.
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      01-03-2008, 07:03 PM   #27
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A motorcycle for $7,500 will blow away all comers.
False. Motorcycles are fast in straight lines but can't turn for shit.
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FORD claims the Shelby GT 500 Mustang has the highest HP/$ ratio of any car out there assuming you're not paying the high dealer mark ups of $10K to $15k that most are paying to get the car. They claim low 4's 0-60, and heard with a few mods it can do much better.
It also has truly horrible braking and handing characteristics.
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shit, if i had that kind of money id buy a gtstreet for monday, an ascari a10 for tuesday, a DBS for wednesday and id just ride jessica alba the rest of the week.
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      01-03-2008, 09:51 PM   #28
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STI and EVO are best bang for buck along with vette
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Definitely Vette.

This would be my top 5 list of 2 drs and 4drs, they're not necessarily in order except for the Vette being #1 out of all of them. They're all under $50k base price and all are at least 300hp with the exception of the TL Type S at 287hp.
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1. Vette= bp $46k
2. 335icoupe= bp $40k
3. 350Z= bp $28k
4. G37= bp $37k
5. Challenger SRT8= bp $40k est.
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6. 300C SRT8= bp $40k
7. IS350= bp $37k
8. Acura TL Type S= bp $38k
9. Evo X= bp $30k est.
10. Pontiac G8 GT= bp under $35k est.
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      01-03-2008, 10:10 PM   #31
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STI and EVO are best bang for buck along with vette
I definitely agree here
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Notice I said LT1 is 47,000 and has a 5.3 0-60 mph, it was the 2007 model. Saw on Edmunds, I have no idea where they get their numbers.

From MT "GM says the 2008 automatic-equipped Corvette is the fastest auto-'Vette ever, with a claimed 4.3 second 0-60 mph run. Although official acceleration numbers for the manual version have not been announced, we expect to see a couple tenths shaved off its 0-60 mph sprint."

Still 4.3 seconds is a ways away from 4.0 seconds. and even further from 3.3 seconds.
You mean LT1 the engine right? The LT1 has been dead for a long long time. Corvette engines are now called the LS Series. LS1, LS2, LS3, LS4, LS7, and now LS9. You had it right though. I went to chevy.com and the '08 'Vette starts at $46,950. So $47K rounded up.

Key word is CLAIMED. MT used GM's numbers and didn't actually test the 'Vette performance wise. It was C&D who got it in 4 seconds. MT got it in 4.1 seconds when they did test it themselves. Even the 2007 'Vette with the LS2 making 400 HP/400 lb of torque got to low to mid 4 seconds in most tests. I would be worried when a ~3100 lb car with that much power can't break 5 seconds 0-60.
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      01-04-2008, 02:33 AM   #34
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im surprised there are some who doesn't know how much of a beast a "normal" Vett is. most performance for ur money is def. a Vett. yes, a GTR is a monster but i wouldnt say $75+k is CHEAP in any way. however, a C6 can be had for $47k and it does 4 sec 0-60. low 12 sec 1/4, and it turns with the best of them especially for the price, you cant beat it (i bet many will start saying Vetts can't handle.. it can only go striaght.. that kinda bull-crap.)
when it comes to modding, it also responds very well to mods for very little money.. not to mention it comes 400+hp/400+TQ right outta the box.. like you really need more than that in a normal street car.
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      01-04-2008, 03:06 AM   #35
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More like 1500$ in mods but yeah im gonna have to agree with you here. Either the STI or the EVO.
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      01-04-2008, 05:42 AM   #36
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For new cars, LS3 Vette.
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      01-04-2008, 06:51 AM   #37
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def Mustang supercool car, not really expensive..
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      01-04-2008, 05:38 PM   #38
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False. Motorcycles are fast in straight lines but can't turn for shit.

It also has truly horrible braking and handing characteristics.
False.

A Supersport 1000cc Sportbike (stock plus reworked suspension internals, race brake pads, and race tires) gets around a road race track faster than all but the super exotics on r compound tires.
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False.

A Supersport 1000cc Sportbike (stock plus reworked suspension internals, race brake pads, and race tires) gets around a road race track faster than all but the super exotics on r compound tires.
The (old) Gallardo beat the 999R on Top Gear, this is all I know of the matter.
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      01-04-2008, 11:49 PM   #40
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      01-05-2008, 08:06 PM   #41
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ls3 vette for sure. its about 51 i i think with the z51 package(better brakes and susp.) which makes it a monster. too bad the paint job on prius is better......
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The (old) Gallardo beat the 999R on Top Gear, this is all I know of the matter.
Better check that. The 999R won, and it's really not a great track bike, of course the same could be said for the Gallardo versus say a F430 Scud or R compound Z06.

Here's the video:

http://www.uponone.com/videos.php?id=5704

A stock Porsche GT3 runs Road America, one of the largest and most storied road race tracks in the US, in 2:36. I ran my 600cc SportBike in 2:28. 1000's run by non-factory pros can easily break the 2:20 mark, and factory pros low 2:teens, all on Supersport-legal bikes.

At my hometrack, GIR, which is a small twisty track, R-compound shod race prepped Vette's run 1:08's. I ran 1:08's on my 600 but the track is configured with an additional slow speed turn for cycles, meaning I was at least 2 seconds quicker apples-for-apples.
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Notice I said LT1 is 47,000 and has a 5.3 0-60 mph, it was the 2007 model. Saw on Edmunds, I have no idea where they get their numbers.
How about they got it from the way-back machine.

Chevy hasn't put the LT1 motor in the Corvette since 1996. I have a 2007 Corvette sitting in my garage and trust me, it doesn't have a LT1 motor in it, and it sure as hell doesn't do 0-60 in 5.3 unless I start moving, stop and wait 1 second, then start again. The LS2 based Corvettes (2005-2007) run low 4's all day long and I believe either M/T or C&D got a 4.1 out of a 05-06 model.

BTW, if all you care about is power and no options, you can pick up a base Corvette with the LS3 for less than 42K right now at any of the main high-volume Corvette dealers in the US (Kerbeck, Les Stanford, etc.). 430HP and 0-60 in 4 flat for 42K is unmatched bang for the buck in a new stock car.
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LS3 vette. Best bang for buck. EVO and STI are, as well, but different beasts.
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