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      12-28-2007, 03:14 PM   #23
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Ok, well, you'd also need an LSD, Launch Control, Active Steering, and a much higher price tag too. Let me know when you're free for lunch one day. Happy New Year!
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Pay no attention to dr325i. He's been knocking the PROcede 335i for months (when he drives a 325i and used to drive an M3); he claims he's waiting for the E92 M3, which is fine, but he shouldn't knock it until he's tried it, imho. I keep inviting him to just take a spin with me in my PROcede v2 335i, but he's never available. Still waiting dr325i...just giving you some grief, buddy.

LOL..no kidding....God forbid what all the "proceder's" are going to do when they have to actually take their car into a turn.
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...I'll just stick with C&D and Edmunds.com for more accurate tests.
screw all these car mags..........the only thing I ever pay attention to or trust, is Top Gear and Fifth Gear for my reviews.
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LOL..no kidding....God forbid what all the "proceder's" are going to do when they have to actually take their car into a turn.
My PROcede v2 335i handles well enough for me (plus I have better traction with my Mich. PS2 tires). According to the car mag tests, the 335i pulls 0.89g on the skid pad, which is fairly decent, imho. Plus, I don't track my car or drive 120mph into a sharp turn anyhow.
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LOL..no kidding....God forbid what all the "proceder's" are going to do when they have to actually take their car into a turn.
If you'd like to race your 330 against a 335 V2 on a track course...let me know. Would love too...
If not...please STFU!
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screw all these car mags..........the only thing I ever pay attention to or trust, is Top Gear and Fifth Gear for my reviews.
LOL Fifth Gear?!?!? I never heard of that show. jk jk Tiff Niddell and that girl FTW!

P.S. Top Gear > Fifth gear
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LOL Fifth Gear?!?!? I never heard of that show. jk jk Tiff Niddell and that girl FTW!

P.S. Top Gear > Fifth gear
Yes, Top Gear > then Fifth Gear, but both are > then any of those lame car mags.
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How did this become a PROcede thread? You guys crack me up.
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It sure is fun watching the fireworks in threads like this one...

Winter sucks, Instead of possibly crashing trying to make my 335xi go 0-60 in X.XX maybe I will have some fun doing doughnuts in the snowy parking lot in my '68 MG
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It sure is fun watching the fireworks in threads like this one...

Winter sucks, Instead of possibly crashing trying to make my 335xi go 0-60 in X.XX maybe I will have some fun doing doughnuts in the snowy parking lot in my '68 MG
Be careful you don't hit a snow bank while doing your doughnuts in the parking lot; I vaguely remember doing that once while driving in one of my friends mother's Ford Escort Station Wagon POS...those older cars don't exactly have airbags you know.
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      12-30-2007, 10:38 PM   #33
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Have you ever owned an SMG car or are you a keyboard warrior on this topic?

I have owned 2 SMG cars and they are infinitely superior to MT cars in every performance metric. And if a person weren't dumb as a monkey, you can modify the way the person drives to have it really smooth even in traffic.
Sorry...I meant to say any car that is missing the third pedal is



And to answer your question -- yes, I have driven but not owned the SMG car. Nothing impressive, nothing bad...
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Sorry...I meant to say any car that is missing the third pedal is



And to answer your question -- yes, I have driven but not owned the SMG car. Nothing impressive, nothing bad...
So I guess you'd turn down a Ferrari with the F1 Paddles then? Personally, I like MT's just for the short-term thrill and fun, but I'll probably never drive one again in my lifetime.

Having the 'best of both worlds' with these new super-fast shifting ManuMatics or 'DSG-type' dual clutch trannies (without the manual clutch) is just pure pleasure, imho. Look at what's currently out and what's coming...the Nissan GT-R with dual clutch tranny with paddle shifters (no MT offered), the E92/E90 BMW M3 with a new dual-clutch tranny with paddle shifters coming soon, etc. Which way do you think things are moving...forward to this tranny platform or backward to the MT? To each his own, I guess.
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So I guess you'd turn down a Ferrari with the F1 Paddles then? Personally, I like MT's just for the short-term thrill and fun, but I'll probably never drive one again in my lifetime.

Having the 'best of both worlds' with these new super-fast shifting ManuMatics or 'DSG-type' dual clutch trannies (without the manual clutch) is just pure pleasure, imho. Look at what's currently out and what's coming...the Nissan GT-R with dual clutch tranny with paddle shifters (no MT offered), the E92/E90 BMW M3 with a new dual-clutch tranny with paddle shifters coming soon, etc. Which way do you think things are moving...forward to this tranny platform or backward to the MT? To each his own, I guess.
yep, no Ferrari for me -- bad gas mileage...
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So I guess you'd turn down a Ferrari with the F1 Paddles then? Personally, I like MT's just for the short-term thrill and fun, but I'll probably never drive one again in my lifetime.

Having the 'best of both worlds' with these new super-fast shifting ManuMatics or 'DSG-type' dual clutch trannies (without the manual clutch) is just pure pleasure, imho. Look at what's currently out and what's coming...the Nissan GT-R with dual clutch tranny with paddle shifters (no MT offered), the E92/E90 BMW M3 with a new dual-clutch tranny with paddle shifters coming soon, etc. Which way do you think things are moving...forward to this tranny platform or backward to the MT? To each his own, I guess.
and I did expect a comment -- "backward to MT" from you
Same as going backward to V8 instead TT + Procede...

Anyway...drove the AT on 335, it was nice, smooth and...boring, and definitely not worth extra $1k or whatever they wanted...
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and I did expect a comment -- "backward to MT" from you
Same as going backward to V8 instead TT + Procede...

Anyway...drove the AT on 335, it was nice, smooth and...boring, and definitely not worth extra $1k or whatever they wanted...

If you the man that you claim you are you would ask BMW for the manual tranny with no synchro-meshs..... You love the third pedal so much you can double-declutch to your heart's delight
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If you the man that you claim you are you would ask BMW for the manual tranny with no synchro-meshs..... You love the third pedal so much you can double-declutch to your heart's delight

ha?
DO you need to be a man to drive a MT???
WOW...I am not sure why Bimmer released M5 with the MT after they could not sell any with SMG??? Maybe it is just the enthusiast thing....
Or mayne they are all...men...
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ha?
DO you need to be a man to drive a MT???
WOW...I am not sure why Bimmer released M5 with the MT after they could not sell any with SMG??? Maybe it is just the enthusiast thing....
Or mayne they are all...men...
Actually, most of the M5 out there are SMG's.
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ha?
DO you need to be a man to drive a MT???
WOW...I am not sure why Bimmer released M5 with the MT after they could not sell any with SMG??? Maybe it is just the enthusiast thing....
Or mayne they are all...men...
could not sell any with SMG?

you're crazy man. they only released it in MT so that they would stop getting shit for all the magazines and maybe gain a small increase in sales, but the vast majority is still SMG... by a long shot.
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Actually, most of the M5 out there are SMG's.
Actually they are not in the year that MT was released...
And maybe in the USA...but definitely not in Europe...
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Anyway...drove the AT on 335, it was nice, smooth and...boring, and definitely not worth extra $1k or whatever they wanted...
Add the PROcede v2 and you won't think it's so boring with the Paddle Shifters...ha ha. Anyway, as I've said before, for the amount of miles I drive each year, an MT with clutch leg cramps just isn't the best idea. Personally, I LOVE the ManuMatic (especially the 335i's ZF 6AT with 100ms shifting ) and drive everyday with my Paddles...and guess what? I'm no less of a car enthusiast or a man, and I still get there faster than most.

I wish you and everyone a very safe and Happy New Year!
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I know. It is a little weird!

R&T is the only car magazine that broke 12's with the RS4.
Edmunds broke the 12 sec barrier.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../pageId=131879
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Model Year: 2007
Make: Audi
Model: RS4
Style: 4dr Sedan (4.2L 8cyl 6M)
Base Price: $66,775
Price as Tested: $68,875
Drive Type: All-wheel drive
Transmission Type: 6-speed manual
Displacement (cc / cu-in): 4,163 (254)
Engine Type: V8
Horsepower (hp @ rpm): 420 @ 7,800
Torque (lb-ft @ rpm): 317 @ 6,000
Braking Type (front): Ventilated/drilled Disc
Braking Type (rear): Ventilated/drilled Disc
Steering System: Speed-proportional hydraulic power steering
Suspension Type (front): Independent, multilink, split upper/lower control arms, coil springs and stabilizer bar
Suspension Type (rear): Independent, double wishbones, coil springs and stabilizer bar
Tire Size (front): 255/35ZR19 96Y
Tire Size (rear): 255/35ZR19 96Y
Tire Brand: Continental
Tire Model: ContiSport Contact3
Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 3,957 (3,848 as tested)
Recommended Fuel: Premium unleaded
Fuel Tank Capacity (gal): 16.6
EPA Fuel Economy (mpg): 14 city/21 highway (13/20 adjusted for 2008)
Edmunds Observed (mpg): 15.9 (best: 20.2/ worst: 13.6)


Conditions for Testing:
Temperature (Fahrenheit): 68
Humidity: 0.39
Elevation (ft): 421
Wind: 2.0 NE


Performance:
0 - 30 (sec): 1.6
0 - 45 (sec): 2.8
0 - 60 (sec): 4.3
0 - 75 (sec): 6.4
1/4 Mile (sec @ mph): 12.8 @ 108.5


Funny, b/c I run 0-60mph in 4.3 sec. and the 1/4 mi. in 12.8 sec., but my trap is 110-111mph.
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