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      12-20-2007, 11:18 AM   #67
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Should we judge LDS members on the actions of some of them? I think not.

You are full of yourself .... I'm going to start a list of JF's that scare the hell out of me ....
Are you LDS?
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I've told you, NO! I have some very close friends that are Mormon, and being the good LDS members they are, they are always trying to convert me. I guess I love my tea to much .... Also, I do live in AZ, which has one of the largest Mormon communities.
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I am a Christian. I haven't been attending Church for a long time. I truly believe God is calling me right now. I wish I could start attending Church or bible study groups. I'm a workaholic, and next year, I'm quiting one of my jobs to attend Church.
When I first started looking for a church in the '80s I worked on Sundays. It made it difficult. That should be great once you have cut out that Sunday work to be able to find a good church. Once I was able to adjust my Sunday work schedule, I visited with all kinds of churches. There were a lot of good ones. And then there were some that were not Christian as it turned out.

Are you undecided about a denomination?
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wow this is deep. I'm really concerned.
Don't even want to know what the list is for??
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I've told you, NO! I have some very close friends that are Mormon, and being the good LDS members they are, they are always trying to convert me. I guess I love my tea to much .... Also, I do live in AZ, which has one of the largest Mormon communities.
Do you have a denominational affiliation?
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No, I call myself more spiritual then Religious. I don’t need to be lining the pockets of some denomination that wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them in the butt!
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I'm a JF, I just don't scare you, right?
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No, I call myself more spiritual then Religious. I don’t need to be lining the pockets of some denomination that wouldn’t know the truth if it bit them in the butt!
It's really quite a bit better to be in fellowship. When considering matters of faith, you benefit from the perspective of others. No one of us can discern truth from error 100% of the time. Together, at least we can develop some kind of concensus.
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Together, at least we can develop some kind of concensus.
Oh really, then why is there a million different denominations? And who gives them the right to say who is Christian, and who is not? I find it laughable how one denomination can have such bigotry against another. I find more truth just by observing so called Christians’.
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Oh really, then why is there a million different denominations? And who gives them the right to say who is Christian, and who is not? I find it laughable how one denomination can have such bigotry against another. I find more truth just by observing so called Christians’.
When I say we can develop some kind of concensus, I mean those who accept the same sources of authority (such as the Holy Bible in a specific translation). And also in discussing personal experience of failure and victory. It helps to recreate together, too. All of this is more productive locally than on the WAN.
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On a side note ... have you ever been to Star, ID? Grand Dad and Dad grew up there ..... I'm sure it has changed in 70 years.
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On a side note ... have you ever been to Star, ID? Grand Dad and Dad grew up there ..... I'm sure it has changed in 70 years.
Yes. Star is not far away. It has grown quite a lot. Star just annexed much more county land. They are also working on zoning for the expansion into the foothills. Much of the upper income people around here live in Star.

Er... this response applies better to Eagle than Star. But parts of Star is just about as upscale. It is a few more miles away from Boise than is Eagle. You go through Eagle to get to Star. Star has a rather diverse population.
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Yes. Star is not far away. It has grown quite a lot. Star just annexed much more county land. They are also working on zoning for the expansion into the foothills. Much of the upper income people around here live in Star.

Er... this response applies better to Eagle than Star. But parts of Star is just about as upscale. It is a few more miles away from Boise than is Eagle. You go through Eagle to get to Star. Star has a rather diverse population.

My dad was born in Eagle .... I haven't been there in over 35 years, and when I was there, it was all farm land and a few houses .... great part of the country .... should have told my dad to buy some land there back then! Worth a fortune now ...
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Was raised by two Catholic parents, that jumped around when I was a child looking at Lutheran and several other Christian variants. When my parents got divorced my mother went back to her Catholic faith and had my sister and I go through Caticism and my father found non-denominational Christianity to fit his needs. I have a good general base of a lot of different Christian religions and feel that it has only helped me with my faith. Today I attend a non-denominational Church here in Vegas and use to attend one in Mission Viejo, CA when I use to live there.
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To all,
What are your views on Judaism?
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What are your views on Judaism?
Upsss...this party died all of the sudden
I am really not into religion, so I cannot discuss the details of any -- Christianity, Judism, Muslims and so on. I can only express my feelings about believeing...

But I believe it is silly to start wars and fight each other because you're a Jew and I am a Muslim (Middle east), or I am a Christian and you're a Muslim (Bosnia) or because you're Catholic and I am Orthodox (Croatia)...
Again, the politicians use the religious differences to make a mess...
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The whole world is blessed because of Abraham. The Jews are God's chosen people. Jesus was born a Jew. God protects Israel and Christians have a responsibility to stand with Israel as God leads.
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The whole world is blessed because of Abraham. The Jews are God's chosen people. Jesus was born a Jew. God protects Israel and Christians have a responsibility to stand with Israel as God leads.
Muslims not?
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The whole world is blessed because of Abraham. The Jews are God's chosen people. Jesus was born a Jew. God protects Israel and Christians have a responsibility to stand with Israel as God leads.
Very well said...
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So, is Jesus God or is God Jesus? And who is the holy spirit then?
I'm ?

Do Allah and JC share the sky or how does it work? What if God goes on vacation? (I know that he took Sunday off when he created the Universe) Does that mean that all the Christians will have to answer to Allah, during that time?
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So, is Jesus God or is God Jesus? And who is the holy spirit then?
I'm ?

Do Allah and JC share the sky or how does it work? What if God goes on vacation? (I know that he took Sunday off when he created the Universe) Does that mean that all the Christians will have to answer to Allah, during that time?
God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost are all the same God. I have never tried to explain this to a secularist before. Let me try.

H2O is found in three forms: solid, liquid, and vapor. God is known in three forms. That's God the Father, Jesus Christ the Son of God, and the Holy Ghost. You could certainly find fuller explanations than this. Google "trinity" and you are bound to find a lot of information.

There are many names for God that describe his character.

ELOHIM [EL-O-’HEEM]: CREATOR
EL ELYON [EL-’EL-YAWN] : GOD MOST HIGH, SOVEREIGN RULER
EL SHADDAI [EL-SHA-’DIE]: OUR SUFFICIENCY
ADONAI [ADD-EH-’NYE]: LORD AND MASTER
JEHOVAH [YHWH, YA’-WAY]: THE SELF-EXISTENT ONE
JEHOVAH-JIREH [JIE’-REH]: THE LORD WILL PROVIDE
JEHOVAH-ROPHE [RAH’-FAH]: THE LORD WHO HEALS
JEHOVAH-NISSI [NEH’-SEE]: THE LORD OUR BANNER
JEHOVAH-SHALOM [SHA-’LOAM] : THE LORD IS PEACE
JEHOVAH-ROHI [ROE’-HYE]: THE LORD MY SHEPHERD
JEHOVAH-SABAOTH [SAH-BAH-’OATH]: THE LORD OF HOSTS
JEHOVAH-SHAMMA [SHAH-’MAH]: THE LORD IS THERE
JEHOVAH-TSIDKENU [SID-’KEN-YOU]: THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS
JEHOVAH-M’KADDESH [EM-KAH-’DESH]: THE LORD OUR SANCTIFIER

I borrowed this listing from http://www.learntopray.org/articles/a43.htm.

About God resting, I'll try an analogy: In music, there are many notes and there are rests. The rest is not that the music stops. The rest is part of the music and without rests, the music would not be complete.

I don't know much about Allah. Don't Muslims say that Allah is the God of Abraham?
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