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      07-09-2014, 03:15 PM   #23
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I doubt it will go up in value due to production numbers, but it should hold value quite well.

Last M with a bespoke engine, last M with a NA motor, only M3 with a V8, last M with a hydraulic steering rack, highest-revving M car, last two-door M3, etc.
I completely agree. Well said sir
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      07-09-2014, 03:19 PM   #24
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Sadly I think every car will be a hybrid or have turbo engine in less than 30 years.

Say goodbye to beastly engines everyone, we'll be on some lame ass electric car forums soon lol
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      07-09-2014, 03:20 PM   #25
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      07-09-2014, 03:29 PM   #26
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This is posted all the time. E92 are 40k + and there are only 9,xxx E90 IN THE WORLD!!

Yes they will be worth something. I don't like Carbuzz article, but I am also licensed appraiser and follow the M market closely. This is not e30, but e46 have also started to rise and were cheaper @ 5 years ago than now. Still can find good deals but a quality car is catching some good coin. That being said, based on numbers alone the e90 will hold a very strong value in the near future.
i know what the E9x numbers are, i dont know what the E46 are.
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      07-09-2014, 03:29 PM   #27
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There were 40,467 convertible and coupe e46 M3's sold in north america

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ECE M3 coupe (LHD): 16,038 examples produced from 09/00 through 05/06
ECE M3 coupe (RHD): 12,510 examples produced from 02/01 through 05/06
NA M3 coupe (LHD): 26,202 examples produced from 02/01 through 05/06
ECE M3 convertible (LHD): 4,822 examples produced from 02/01 through 08/06
ECE M3 convertible (RHD): 7,234 examples produced from 04/01 through 08/06
NA M3 convertible (LHD): 17,577 examples produced from 03/01 through 08/06
ECE M3 CSL coupe (LHD): 823 examples produced from 5/03 through 12/03*
ECE M3 CSL coupe (RHD): 535 examples produced from 6/03 through 12/03**
* in addition to 18 pre-production prototypes
**in addition to 7 pre-production prototypes



here's the breakdown for e9x - 25,672 total in NA

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      07-09-2014, 03:31 PM   #28
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And there will be plenty to chose from. Unless your car is an Individual or ridiculously low mileage (then why buy one?), then no, don't expect a huge jump.

That's not to say they won't be worth money. I don't see a decent one being $8000 in 15 years, but at the same time, you won't see the ridiculous rise in price the E30's are seeing.
i am not really saying values will go up a HUGE amount. I feel there will always be some demand for this car. I think it will be a "classic" , not necessary a collectable
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e90 was not a Mass produced car by any means.
you are correct on that, what I meant was the e9x platform was not a limited run. However the e36 m3 sedan was produced in much less quantity than the coupe counterpart and I don't see it being worth more than a e36 M3 coupe.
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      07-09-2014, 04:46 PM   #30
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i am not really saying values will go up a HUGE amount. I feel there will always be some demand for this car. I think it will be a "classic" , not necessary a collectable
More or less anything with an M badge (a "proper") one will hold their value. What usually happens is that they all tank at some point, then come back up and values stay up. And this includes the E36 which is the cheapest M car you can get. A very clean E36 in a desirable color like the one I have is worth low teens now. I'm confident that I can drive it for another 2 years, and get what I paid out of it at a minimum.
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      07-09-2014, 05:17 PM   #31
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Yep, where most cars slide down and down and eventually end up scrapped, performance-oriented/sports cars hit bottom and slowly crawl back up to some level where they either hold or become collector cars. I've watched four of my past cars follow this curve. For some reason I seem to sell them at or near the bottom of the curve. Although, with my air-cooled 911-S, I bought and sold on each side of the dip and got the same amount out of it that I had paid at purchase 7.5 years earlier! 'Course, now it's worth 3X as much...
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I just don't understand this need to feel like you own something special, which clearly isn't. It's an incredible car by all standards, don't get me wrong, and will most certainly always be seen a successful model-run for the M series. But it's not above and beyond where it'll significantly hold value above it's current depreciation trajectory.

Sure, 25 years from now, if you own a low mileage, showroom condition, all original, cherry E9x, it will be sought after and quite collectible. But that's true for just about any "sports car" with "semi-limited" production.

"Keep pumping out new options for me, car manufacturers," "Keep trying to one up yourselves and the competition," "Keep pouring millions into R&D" I say. That's what is important... long term, overall progress.
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      07-09-2014, 07:17 PM   #34
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+1

There seems to be a lot of self delusion going around m3post..lol
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      07-09-2014, 07:29 PM   #35
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if the e9x M3 was a very limited run like the 1M than it would most likely rise in value in the future. But the e9x was mass produced. MAYBE in 20 years, when NA V8s are extinct and most e9x has been either crashed/trashed a pristine one could be worth some coin. Enjoy the car now, especially since parts and performance upgrades are getting cheaper
This is what is happening with the S2000 right now. It was limited production-only about 5k a year imported into the US, only about 25k total over the run. Being set up for oversteer, many have bitten the dust.

Even so, my 2003 (most desirable year) with low miles has yet to get back to the original blue book. It's within a few $k, but expecting anything other than "less of a depreciation loss" seems optimistic.
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      07-09-2014, 07:58 PM   #36
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I think a nice maintained e9x will never drop below $20k on the market.. once they all start getting clapped out, the value may rise. Production numbers on our cars are way lower than what the e46 M3 was
^this. Plus two additional factors. If reviews for the new Mustang GT are positive, it would displace some demand for the used M market. While it may not have the badge appeal and premium equipment, it will have a warranty and more torque.

However, if the new M 3/4 is rejected as a fail, that could boost the e9x.
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      07-09-2014, 08:13 PM   #37
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:I just don't understand this need to feel like you own something special, which clearly [it] isn't. It's an incredible car by all standards.....
Denying the car is something special while at the same time proclaiming it's an incredible car presents such a contradiction that I can't help but conclude that the thinking is, no offenses intended, the product of a confused mind. What's surprising is how many posters express, more or less, the same sentiment.
You need to compile all the awards, compliments, achievements and recognition this car has stockpiled. Then you are more likely to let go of the fatuous notion it is no more exceptional than, say, a Ford Focus.
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      07-09-2014, 09:45 PM   #38
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Let's face it, cars are a crappy investment! There are sooooo many other things to invest in if you want to "make money" in the future. The only value to this car for me is the sheer excitement of driving it. Say what you want, this car will continue to depreciate. Sure if you don't drive it, it won't drop as much but don't expect it to appreciate any time soon. It's like marrying a super model and not touching her so that she's nice and fresh for the next guy. Stupid! Drive it like you stole it. It'll run better and you'll get your money's worth. Invest in something else...
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      07-09-2014, 10:03 PM   #39
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here's the breakdown for e9x - 25,672 total in NA

I feel special owning a Non Lci e90 dct only 200 made in the US. Maybe that well add some value in 25 years.
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i think the E9x does have a lot going for it. last M3 coupe, BMW was using bespoke engines, last N/A engine etc... I think it will be a sought out car, but probably wont go up in value any time soon.
Agreed ^^^

With low miles any performance car will hold its value and then slowly creep up ....with the S65 it is special. However, if you have a high mileage track beater with tons of mods...like most do....don't bet on it.
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      07-10-2014, 09:03 AM   #41
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If the bottom fell out of my car's value tomorrow, it wouldn't change how I feel about it when I look at it as I walk away from parking it or how I feel when I'm behind the wheel (moving OR sitting still). I did not buy this car as an investment and while it's fun to think it may be "worth something" someday, to me that day is now. It only matters to me the "worth" I put into this car. I'm approaching my mid 50's and have owned and driven many different types of cars and this car - by far - is the best bange for my buck. I absolutely love this car and at the end of the day, that's all that really matters.
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      07-10-2014, 09:08 AM   #42
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Let's face it, cars are a crappy investment! There are sooooo many other things to invest in if you want to "make money" in the future. The only value to this car for me is the sheer excitement of driving it. Say what you want, this car will continue to depreciate. Sure if you don't drive it, it won't drop as much but don't expect it to appreciate any time soon. It's like marrying a super model and not touching her so that she's nice and fresh for the next guy. Stupid! Drive it like you stole it. It'll run better and you'll get your money's worth. Invest in something else...
Cars are not an investment at all.
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      07-10-2014, 10:50 AM   #43
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Gas prices

You guys are not factoring in gas prices , the price of all v8 call drop when gas cost go up . And gas Prices are not coming down anytime soon.

An unrest in the Saudi Arabia will send gas price sky rocketing.
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      07-10-2014, 12:15 PM   #44
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You guys are not factoring in gas prices , the price of all v8 call drop when gas cost go up . And gas Prices are not coming down anytime soon.

An unrest in the Saudi Arabia will send gas price sky rocketing.
To a certain extent most of these guys here don't really care about fuel prices - if they did they wouldn't be driving an M3 as a DD. I'm not well off by any stretch and even If the price doubled it wouldn't change my life at all.
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