Breyton Race GTS wheels: best looking on the E92 M3 so far...

lucid · 12-08-2007, 08:42 PM

These wheels are the only only rims I've seen that beat the stock 19" look for me. Any info on their price and weight would be welcome. Thanks to BNR32, South, redmtclimber, and Epacy for most of the pics.

OC ///M · 12-08-2007, 08:48 PM

IMHO 20's are too big for the 3

lucid · 12-08-2007, 08:50 PM

I would need to see in person. Would most likely be heavy anyway. They must come in 19"?

OC ///M · 12-08-2007, 08:51 PM

19", now yer talkin'

P.S. I'll bet those are pretty lightweight for 20's though...

Epacy · 12-08-2007, 10:01 PM

Excellent idea Lucid. I completely agree.
No 20s for me though. Gotta be 19s.

southlight · 12-09-2007, 04:20 AM

+1 on the 19s.
They should also have the same size like the OEM wheels (245 front, 265 rear) IMHO to be usable with the PS2 tires Michelin developed for the M3. That's what I doubt since Breyton seems to use Dunlop tires with their wheels.

Best regards, south

Big Windy · 12-09-2007, 04:35 AM

here are the full specs...the rims are offered by Breyton in both 19" and 20." available from breyton in Feb '08.

south- the specs below confirm what you guessed about the PS2s...it looks like 235F, 265R on the 19"s and 245F, 285R on the 20"s. so you're going to need some new rubber with these babies. also curious whether the offsets are the same as OEM (too lazy to search right now).

20 Zoll:
VA (front) : Rims GTS 8,20 ET 35 with 245/30 ZR 20
HA (rear) : Rims GTS 10 x 20 ET 35 with 285/25 ZR 20

19 Zoll:
VA (front): 8,5 x 19 ET 30 with 235/35 ZR 19
HA (front): 9,5 x 19 ET 35 with 265/30 ZR 19

southlight · 12-09-2007, 05:51 AM

Thanks for that data.

The OEM offset is ET29 front, ET23 rear. Looks like the 19" are not meant for the M (rather 335,328). Not sure about the 20" wheels, why increase the front offest by 6mm for the same tire size?

Best regards, south

Romo · 12-09-2007, 07:33 AM

Do not feel the rimms, no aftermarket whatever on my M3..................IMHO..................

Epacy · 12-09-2007, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

Thanks for that data.

The OEM offset is ET29 front, ET23 rear. Looks like the 19" are not meant for the M (rather 335,328). Not sure about the 20" wheels, why increase the front offest by 6mm for the same tire size?

Best regards, south

You have OEM specs on the wheels S? Didn't know that was known yet. Have any more?
You could still put these puppies on.

lucid · 12-09-2007, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

You have OEM specs on the wheels S? Didn't know that was known yet. Have any more?
You could still put these puppies on.

Wouldn't the 12 mm difference for the rears cause problems?

southlight · 12-09-2007, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Epacy

You have OEM specs on the wheels S? Didn't know that was known yet. Have any more?
You could still put these puppies on.

The specs on the OEM wheels (18" style 260, 19" style 220) for the M3:

Style 260 18"
Front: 8,5 x 18 245/40 R18 ET29 (11,33kg)
Rear: 9,5 x 18 265/40 R18 ET23 (10,54kg)

Style 220 19"
Front: 8,5 x 19 245/35 R19 ET29 (unofficial ~13kg)
Rear: 9,5 x 19 265/35 R19 ET23 (unofficial ~13kg)

Or did you mean the Breytons?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucid

Wouldn't the 12 mm difference for the rears cause problems?

Was wondering that, too. The 20" Breyton wheels are 20mm wider so they need at least 10mm difference. The different front offset is irritating me...

Best regards, south

OC ///M · 12-09-2007, 12:38 PM

At the mentioned et30 and et35 offsets on these 19" Breyton's, I wouldn't recommend them on the e92m3...They'll look wrong and underperform. The stock rears are wider...

southlight · 12-09-2007, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

At the mentioned et30 and et35 offsets on these 19" Breyton's, I wouldn't recommend them on the e92m3...They'll look wrong and underperform. The stock rears are wider...

As I said, I think the 19" version isn't meant for the M3. OP mentioned E91!?

Best regards, south

lucid · 12-09-2007, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OC kid

At the mentioned et30 and et35 offsets on these 19" Breyton's, I wouldn't recommend them on the e92m3...They'll look wrong and underperform. The stock rears are wider...

Agreed. Bummer...

Guga79 · 12-09-2007, 08:05 PM

Are these wheels available for the e90s?

Epacy · 12-09-2007, 08:52 PM

It seems that alot of newbies around the forums now don't even read the threads they post in.

BMW MotorSport · 12-27-2007, 03:12 AM

those are some nice wheels but not my cup of tea. I'm actually a Breyton Wheel Distributor.

malter2.0 · 01-24-2008, 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by southlight

The specs on the OEM wheels (18" style 260, 19" style 220) for the M3:

Style 260 18"
Front: 8,5 x 18 245/40 R18 ET29 (11,33kg)
Rear: 9,5 x 18 265/40 R18 ET23 (10,54kg)

Style 220 19"
Front: 8,5 x 19 245/35 R19 ET29 (unofficial ~13kg)
Rear: 9,5 x 19 265/35 R19 ET23 (unofficial ~13kg)

how are front 18" heavier than rear 18" if you have wider rim with same material? did you switch them by accident?

E394KEN · 01-30-2008, 11:22 PM

Not feeling those wheels.

footie · 02-03-2008, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malter2.0

how are front 18" heavier than rear 18" if you have wider rim with same material? did you switch them by accident?

I was just wondering the same thing, this doesn't sound logical for a larger width rim and tyres to weigh less, sure the figures should be reversed.

sdiver68 · 02-03-2008, 12:58 PM

I love the style, very much like my BBS RG-R's but with no lip. However, aren't the Breyton's cast and heavy? Check out the Morr VS7 or VS8 in a similar style lightweight forged design.

12-08-2007, 08:42 PM	#1
lucid Major General Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 8,057 iTrader: (0)	Breyton Race GTS wheels: best looking on the E92 M3 so far... These wheels are the only only rims I've seen that beat the stock 19" look for me. Any info on their price and weight would be welcome. Thanks to BNR32, South, redmtclimber, and Epacy for most of the pics. Attached Images
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12-08-2007, 08:48 PM	#2
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,612 iTrader: (0)	IMHO 20's are too big for the 3 __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|

12-08-2007, 08:51 PM	#4
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,612 iTrader: (0)	19", now yer talkin' P.S. I'll bet those are pretty lightweight for 20's though... __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|

12-08-2007, 10:01 PM	#5
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,227 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Excellent idea Lucid. I completely agree. No 20s for me though. Gotta be 19s. __________________ Pearl Bliss

12-09-2007, 12:38 PM	#13
OC ///M Lieutenant Colonel Drives: SSII e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: So Cal Posts: 1,612 iTrader: (0)	At the mentioned et30 and et35 offsets on these 19" Breyton's, I wouldn't recommend them on the e92m3...They'll look wrong and underperform. The stock rears are wider... __________________ OC ///M 2011 ZCP \| ED + PCD \| Akra Evo \| Brembo 380mm \| ESS Tuning Software \| Evosport Pulley \| Molded OEM Spoiler & Splitters \|

12-08-2007, 08:50 PM	#3
lucid Major General Drives: E30 M3; Expedition Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: USA Posts: 8,057 iTrader: (0)	I would need to see in person. Would most likely be heavy anyway. They must come in 19"?

12-09-2007, 04:20 AM	#6
southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,332 iTrader: (0)	+1 on the 19s. They should also have the same size like the OEM wheels (245 front, 265 rear) IMHO to be usable with the PS2 tires Michelin developed for the M3. That's what I doubt since Breyton seems to use Dunlop tires with their wheels. Best regards, south

12-09-2007, 04:35 AM	#7
Big Windy Major General Drives: audi s4 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: seatac, wa Posts: 5,165 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00] 2000 Saleen S281 Su ... [0.00]	here are the full specs...the rims are offered by Breyton in both 19" and 20." available from breyton in Feb '08. south- the specs below confirm what you guessed about the PS2s...it looks like 235F, 265R on the 19"s and 245F, 285R on the 20"s. so you're going to need some new rubber with these babies. also curious whether the offsets are the same as OEM (too lazy to search right now). 20 Zoll: VA (front) : Rims GTS 8,20 ET 35 with 245/30 ZR 20 HA (rear) : Rims GTS 10 x 20 ET 35 with 285/25 ZR 20 19 Zoll: VA (front): 8,5 x 19 ET 30 with 235/35 ZR 19 HA (front): 9,5 x 19 ET 35 with 265/30 ZR 19

12-09-2007, 05:51 AM	#8
southlight Moderator / European Editor Drives: BMW Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 6,332 iTrader: (0)	Thanks for that data. The OEM offset is ET29 front, ET23 rear. Looks like the 19" are not meant for the M (rather 335,328). Not sure about the 20" wheels, why increase the front offest by 6mm for the same tire size? Best regards, south

12-09-2007, 07:33 AM	#9
Romo Captain Drives: 1M, S1000RR Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 748 iTrader: (0)	Do not feel the rimms, no aftermarket whatever on my M3..................IMHO..................

12-09-2007, 08:05 PM	#16
Guga79 Private First Class Drives: 2006 330i AW Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Tierra Verede, FL Posts: 129 iTrader: (2)	Are these wheels available for the e90s? __________________ 2006 E90 330i Alpine White - Gray Leather - Aluminum Trim - ZSP - ZPP - ZCW - Xenon - Tint - Logic7

12-09-2007, 08:52 PM	#17
Epacy Reincarnated Drives: 02 Maxima SE Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: IL Posts: 4,227 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	It seems that alot of newbies around the forums now don't even read the threads they post in. __________________ Pearl Bliss

12-27-2007, 03:12 AM	#18
BMW MotorSport Banned Drives: 95 Avus M3 and 07 E90 Fam Car! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: So Cal, Simi Valley Posts: 2,545 iTrader: (4)	those are some nice wheels but not my cup of tea. I'm actually a Breyton Wheel Distributor. Last edited by BMW MotorSport; 12-27-2007 at 03:27 AM.

01-30-2008, 11:22 PM	#20
E394KEN M3//4KEN Drives: E46 M3 & E90 335i (Woosh!) Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Ventura, CA Posts: 410 iTrader: (0)	Not feeling those wheels.

02-03-2008, 12:58 PM	#22
sdiver68 Expert Road Racer Drives: 07 335i e90, 09 335i e93 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 1,330 iTrader: (3)	I love the style, very much like my BBS RG-R's but with no lip. However, aren't the Breyton's cast and heavy? Check out the Morr VS7 or VS8 in a similar style lightweight forged design.