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09-19-2011, 05:21 PM | #1 |
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No cats at the dealer?
I was wondering how the dealers recieve cars that go in with no cats? I would think the smell would immediatly give it away and while I know cat delete alone cannot void warranty, I would think they would suspect other mods based on knowing your cats are gone. I also could see them denying an engine claim with cats gone given theoretically it could mess with the engine air flow properties. Not saying in fact it does but I could see them using that to get out of a warranty claim..
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09-19-2011, 07:43 PM | #3 |
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Yes, not sure how you "feel them out" to be honest. Its kind of pointless if you think about it. 2 scenarios may occur.
1.He is ok with mods. Therefore if you bring it in with mods anyway, he will have been fine with it. No need to find this out before hand. 2.If he is not ok with it. If you ask him or "feel him out" then he will be on the lookout for you having mods on your car. You might as well just bring it in and see what happens. Not sure feeling out is useful here. |
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What about dogs? Any issues with the smell of dogs at the dealer?
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This is one of those situations where it makes more sense to ask for permission than forgiveness. Ideally do this before your mod. It makes it easier if you are already going to the same dealer/sa and already have a rapport. (I can't stress how important rapport is-- for anything) Just tell him, you're on the boards and there's so many conflicting information about how dealerships feel about mods and instead of listening to all the bs, you wanted to actually get his advice. He'll respect you for asking him and even if he's on the fence on the idea, you got yourself some leverage. And if not, go to another dealer.
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09-25-2011, 07:01 PM | #13 |
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I contacted BMW NA about header back exhaust, with regard to warranty. They said that they frown upon After Market products and can only say if in their opinion the after market product cause damage to OEM parts it would not be covered. When I asked for more detail he said that he had no technical knowledge as did his supervisor. BMW does not want their customer service people to have any knowledge of their cars, because they do not want them to give out advise that may be incorrect. He was willing to advise me not to buy a competitors automobile, beyond that it was a pretty pointless conversation.
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09-25-2011, 07:19 PM | #14 |
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I have a buddy that takes his car in to century west with a few mods, along with the fact that it has no cats. no problems at all, just be very direct with them and what you have done to your car
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its not all about the SA. Its about the tech. with my modded 335i im cool with the tech and text him prior.
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i just took in my car for the first time after removing the primary cats. i talked to my sa before hand because i was going in for an exhaust related issue. buzzing or vibration and thought it was the rear bracket on the axle back. it was iffy if they would cover the damage since i put in the mid section and would say it was caused by that. turned out not to be a bracket issue and something i can fix easily. my sa didnt have an issue with my car having cats removed but did make a note in my service record to that effect.
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That's why unless you count a BMW service manager as your drinking buddy, I'd seriously question doing any of that crap to a car under warranty. And if you already did, taking it there with those mods wouldn't even cross my mind. But to each his own. Good luck. |
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09-28-2011, 06:40 PM | #21 |
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i told my sa yesterday i was running this to explain the lack of increased emission light.
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I had no problem with that going to Crevier BMW. I just told my rep that the check engine light is on, I know what it's on for, headers on the car, and there's no need to check it, it's not urgent. He said ok, and just took the car for inspection I or II, depending on what I needed.
I've heard that some do care though, it just depends on the dealership.
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