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      09-15-2009, 05:44 PM   #1
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E9X M3 CSL

Sorry if this is a repost, I searched and didn't find anything.. anyway I thought I remember reading that BMW decided not to release a CSL version, or maybe this is old:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do.../photoId=63267
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      09-15-2009, 06:31 PM   #2
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BMW did say they weren't gonna release a CSL version but if this is true it is very exciting news!!! I gotta say that the RS5 looks F'in HOT!!!!

Direct link to article: http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=132004

EDIT: If you read the article it states that BMW will not release the M3 CSL right now due to decreased demands. Here's the quote:

Is the BMW CSL Still in the Game?
In fact, BMW may have already folded in this poker game. Ludwig Willisch, the new chief executive of BMW's M Division, noted that there's not enough demand to justify the expense of developing the limited-edition CSL, confirming comments made earlier this past summer by Klaus Draeger, the M division's development chief.

Our sources say that the hard-core CSL — uprated to 450 hp and slimmed down by 220 pounds compared to the standard M3 — had been just 12 months away from production after numerous sightings during development at the Nürburgring. But Willisch has burst our expectant bubble. "Based on current numbers, there is most likely insufficient demand for the M3 CSL," he recently told a representative from a German automotive Web site.
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Sucks

Too busy in Germany counting friggin CO2 output.

Weak sauce for the M division.

I fear the end of the M division is closer everyday

Oh but they build the huge appeal X5M and X6M, bunch of idiots
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      09-15-2009, 07:18 PM   #4
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They never sold the CSL here in the US, so who cares anyway.
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Looks hot, but why is there only one picture of the would-be-CSL? I agree with sparky. Why X5M and X6M instead of CSL? Who the fvck cares? Makes no sense to me. Is it competition with Porsche's Cayenne? I don't know.
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lame!
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Looks hot, but why is there only one picture of the would-be-CSL? I agree with sparky. Why X5M and X6M instead of CSL? Who the fvck cares? Makes no sense to me. Is it competition with Porsche's Cayenne? I don't know.
That's exactly it - the Cayenne is a huge seller for Porsche. People, me included, said the same thing when that came out - "this isn't Porsche, why, why!?...it ended up being a huge success.

I mean I'd rather see a CSL too, but they are in the business of making money first. So as a business decision I understand it, but as an enthusiast, I wish they would focus elsewhere.
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both cars are damn sexy
but I don't think we ll ever get a m3 csl here in na anyways

luckly, we still have a 911 gt3 rs !!! YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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If the X5M and X6M keep the M division in business then I'm all for it as long as they keep cranking out awesome M3s.
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      09-16-2009, 08:37 AM   #12
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Yup, I agree...it is never coming to the states so who cares about the CSL...we all upgrade our sh*t anyway and some of reduce weight so we create our own CSL's anyway!

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If the X5M and X6M keep the M division in business then I'm all for it as long as they keep cranking out awesome M3s.
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They might change their minds when the RS5 gets released and starts whooping the M3's butt. You know they hate to loose. Only time will tell.
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That article shows a posting date of Sept 08'. Not really any new information in there.
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Yes I had seen all this before, it is too bad there will be no CSL. But don´t be soooo sad, you can always build your own CSL.
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MEH dont think its gona happen!
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They might change their minds when the RS5 gets released and starts whooping the M3's butt. You know they hate to loose. Only time will tell.
I don't think the RS5 is going to be a direct competitor for the M3 because of price. You figure a B7 S4 costs about mid 50s low 60s. The B7 RS4 costs about mid 70s so about 15k to 20k difference from S to RS. The S5 costs about mid 60s so the RS5 is probably going to be well over 80. Audi might price itself out of this competition.
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The CSL is coming out. Its called the M3 Edition.
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That's exactly it - the Cayenne is a huge seller for Porsche. People, me included, said the same thing when that came out - "this isn't Porsche, why, why!?...it ended up being a huge success.

I mean I'd rather see a CSL too, but they are in the business of making money first. So as a business decision I understand it, but as an enthusiast, I wish they would focus elsewhere.
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If the X5M and X6M keep the M division in business then I'm all for it as long as they keep cranking out awesome M3s.
The Cayenne is a totally different situation. BMW makes SUV's and has made pumped up SUV's in the past and called them "iS"
The only real reason to slap an M badge on these boats is the name. They are thus NOT FOLLOWING the //M heritage as explained by the head of //M about a year ago in Roundel. He said an //M has to be relatively light, be rear wheel drive, and have a manual type tranny (ie not a slush box). He also said an //M has to have a high reving NA engine and be relativley light. That was the reason there was no M7.
These boats follow NONE of these principles. Why couldn't BMW just call it an iS like theyd did in the past?
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shame on bmw!!!! they NEED to make the csl and send them over to usa!! and get rid of their hideous m suv crapppppppp
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