2011 M3 vs. 2011 S4?

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

I surmise comprehension has been a little bit of a rough spot for you?

Your response was exactly my point to begin with.

while on the subject

hows the m-drive? i love the fancy names companies give their diffs now a days, when you open it up, its all the same

[graider]

Originally Posted by shift@red

What? The M3 has been ranked as the most reliable in BMWs line up and the most reliable sporty car.

maybe it's just me, but i found the m3 too unreliable compare to my other acura/honda cars.

[JonnyM3]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

while on the subject

hows the m-drive? i love the fancy names companies give their diffs now a days, when you open it up, its all the same

M drive isn't a "diff setting." Changes throttle mapping/response as well as a few other things, quite similar to dynamic mode in the new S4

[Kyoshi71]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

while on the subject

hows the m-drive? i love the fancy names companies give their diffs now a days, when you open it up, its all the same

You mean the M differential Lock. Yes, it's all the same BS regarding the names. However, you seem to be here just provoking controversy and playing symantics with every post.

I guess it goes back to Something GRAIDER said a few months ago that was brilliant: "There's no one on the Audi forums because they're all here."

[PKL]

Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

"There's no one on the Audi forums because they're all here."

thats pretty true, those forums are slow and boring

[ssabripo]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

while on the subject

hows the m-drive? i love the fancy names companies give their diffs now a days, when you open it up, its all the same

it's doing great... you know, adjusting throttle response and all.

I think your silly jab was meant to imply "M-diff"

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by ssabripo

it's doing great... you know, adjusting throttle response and all.

I think your silly jab was meant to imply "M-diff"

one in the same in my book. sport diff, ads, and m drive are all the same in my book. all adjust suspension (not with the sport diff option), throttle response, and the diff. it wasnt a "silly jab" it was an educated jab. mmmk?

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

How is the rear unpredictable? Most tail-happy cars are very predictable.

the 335i? or the m3? my argument is that what kills the 335i for me is the rear 1 wheel spin. makes exits slip annoyingly unpredictable. m3 however is a bliss.

[PunjabiM3]

You guys seriously have way too much time on your hands. Go do something productive instead of sitting on BMW and/or Audi forums arguing about which of the two is better.

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by PunjabiM3

You guys seriously have way too much time on your hands. Go do something productive instead of sitting on BMW and/or Audi forums arguing about which of the two is better.

do something productive, instead of of telling us to be productive. what are you, our boss?

[Kyoshi71]

Originally Posted by PunjabiM3

You guys seriously have way too much time on your hands. Go do something productive instead of sitting on BMW and/or Audi forums arguing about which of the two is better.

Wow, what a dick thing to post considering you're here too.

[PunjabiM3]

Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Wow, what a dick thing to post considering you're here too.

You guys seriously are way too sensitive about little things. I'm really not on the forums all that much anymore and don't miss em much to be honest.

[PunjabiM3]

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

do something productive, instead of of telling us to be productive. what are you, our boss?

In fact I did: washed the M3, applied a coat of wax, took pics, rotated the tires on my wife's car, and helped her with lunch.

[inter1032]

Originally Posted by PKL

thats pretty true, those forums are slow and boring

have you ever been on one? more active than here

[Alex_bm]

I am talking from experience, driven both cars. Don't find 335 to be unpredictable at all, but good AWD will always have its advantages.
For me there is just no connection between the driver and machine, most probably because of artificial steering feel.

In the end, each to his own. Same as colors, women and many other things, its just a matter of taste.

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

1 wheel spin is way more fun? oooo really?

the death of the 335i is that its rear is unpredicatble, so im sorry its not "way more fun"

as for communication, you relying on the article or real life experience? the s4 is awd, which like a 335xi, suffers in communication because of the front diff being driven. with that said, with the active diff, the s4 much more predictable and stable in its transitions, be it in comparison to a 335i or 335xi. its a trade off of awd.

i stand by my point 335i < b8 s4 < m3.

[hemi to e90]

Originally Posted by inter1032

have you ever been on one? more active than here

shhhhh dont burst their dreams bubbles

Originally Posted by Alex_bm

I am talking from experience, driven both cars. Don't find 335 to be unpredictable at all, but good AWD will always have its advantages.
For me there is just no connection between the driver and machine, most probably because of artificial steering feel.

In the end, each to his own. Same as colors, women and many other things, its just a matter of taste.

how bout this, the diff would make the car much better, and theres a big obvious reason why the m3 has a locking/active diff, k?

[Alex_bm]

k

No arguments here, would make 335 a lot better in handling department. It should have been an option offered

Originally Posted by hemi to e90

shhhhh dont burst their dreams bubbles



how bout this, the diff would make the car much better, and theres a big obvious reason why the m3 has a locking/active diff, k?

[nal13]

As an S4 owner, I wouldn't lie if I didn't feel a little regret when I pull up next to an M3. The e90 M3 is the epitome of a sports sedan. When I purchased my B8S4 the only other car that I considered was the M. The M3 is faster, more agile, and overall more rewarding to drive. However, what it ultimately came down to was the fact that I needed a daily driver that could get through any weather condition. Hence the purchase of the S4. After 15K miles I can say I absolutely love the car. It give me 90+% of the performance of the M3, and its a little tractor in inclement weather. I haven't had a single issues with its reliability and the car was nearly 20K less then a simarily optioned M3.

So yes I get a little sad when I pull up next to an M3 but then I look at my Penguin alcantara seats and turn up the ridic B&O system and think to myself I still got it pretty good.

[JonnyM3]

Originally Posted by SehrSchnell

I pulled up next to a beautiful black '10 or '11 S4 today at a traffic light... we gave each other the thumbs-up and parted ways. It is such a great car!

Its always refreshing to read nice comments like that.

[UNNATRAL]

I love my M3, but when my sister bought a 2011 S4 the same week i bought my M, I was actually surprised. I drove it, and holy christ, that thing boogies!! very nice paddle shift tranny, quick response with the supercharger, overall very comfy and sporty car. I LOVE the interior of the S4, very useful and easy to use at that. Great car, but of course the M takes the cake. not because its faster, but because its an M.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by nal13

As an S4 owner, I wouldn't lie if I didn't feel a little regret when I pull up next to an M3. The e90 M3 is the epitome of a sports sedan. When I purchased my B8S4 the only other car that I considered was the M. The M3 is faster, more agile, and overall more rewarding to drive. However, what it ultimately came down to was the fact that I needed a daily driver that could get through any weather condition. Hence the purchase of the S4. After 15K miles I can say I absolutely love the car. It give me 90+% of the performance of the M3, and its a little tractor in inclement weather. I haven't had a single issues with its reliability and the car was nearly 20K less then a simarily optioned M3.

So yes I get a little sad when I pull up next to an M3 but then I look at my Penguin alcantara seats and turn up the ridic B&O system and think to myself I still got it pretty good.

Maybe it's time for M3 to go awd on option.... Ferrari are not stupid

[nal13]

Originally Posted by brava09

Maybe it's time for M3 to go awd on option.... Ferrari are not stupid

The purists will call for blood. I however would be the first to place a deposit!!!!!

[brava09]

Originally Posted by nal13

The purists will call for blood. I however would be the first to place a deposit!!!!!

The purists may not tick the awd option

And then I will be faster with my xDrive M3 than the purists

because let's be honest, it requires a great amount of skill to drive fast a high-powered RWD car...