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12-23-2008, 05:24 PM | #1 |
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GT-R grenades tranny
The very same car a former member posted, to brag about. He claimed simple bolt-ons, it ran a 10.5 second. Apparently the GTR tranny can't handle simple bolt-ons.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/12/23/v...he-drag-strip/ VIDEO: Tuned Nissan GT-R grenades tranny at the drag strip The Samurai Speed Nissan GT-R you see above (the one on the right) is a total bad ass. With over 600 horsepower and several other performance-enhancing tweaks, it can do a 10.5-second quarter mile run at a ridiculous 128.42 mph. Samurai Speed has obviously tested Nissan's notoriously finicky Launch Control over 100 times without a single hiccup... until now. The $20,000 tranny recently took a dirt nap on the drag strip with the cameras rolling, and we have video of the carnage after the jump. You can't hear the tranny fail on account of the other GT-R at the line, but onlookers said the nuclear transmission sounded like a "bunch of metal dominoes in a line and Tiger Woods came by and hit them with his driver." Ouch. It's pretty obvious that Nissan won't be picking up the warranty tab for this GT-R, so Samurai Speed plans to beef up the transmission on its own dime in an effort to continue cranking out incredible times. [u2b]<object width="480" height="295"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/Y27VMeSrJas&hl=en&fs=1"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/Y27VMeSrJas&hl=en&fs=1" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="295"></embed></object>[/u2b] |
12-23-2008, 05:40 PM | #2 |
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Oh yeah, here is a list the so-called simple bolt-ons.
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12-24-2008, 03:38 PM | #8 |
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There's a pretty long thread about this over at Nagtroc involving the owner of this car, and he isn't too worked up about it. He'd intended to replace the tranny before this ever happened.
More broadly, I'd hardly view this as proof the the GTR having a glass transmission given the regularity with which this car was being launched and the mods the guy had done. It was, as noted above, definitely not stock. I suspect the issue is real but has been somewhat overblown--though only time will tell. I do think that at times people on here rag on the GTR out of nothing more than jealousy. That said, Nagtroc seems to be the opposite problem and is full of Nissan apologists. The truth is somewhere in likely somewhere in between. |
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12-24-2008, 10:40 PM | #10 | |
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But this should be a warning to people modding the GTR. When it comes down to modding for more power, you have to know the stock tranny is not up for it. This particular car is not overly modded, the tuner only did a little over 100 launches with this car. Just don't see this car being as bulletproof as other turbo cars, like the Supra. That thing could handle large amounts of boost, stock. |
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12-24-2008, 11:19 PM | #11 |
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The R33 GT-R had the same problems. Almost any big HP GTR in Japan R32, 33, or 34 had a Nismo tranny in em. The Supra is a RWD car, less grip, less stress. My Supra (a 98) could not handle high boost (18+ PSI) without the help of a boost controller, fuel controller, catless DP, and a new clutch.
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12-27-2008, 11:02 AM | #12 |
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This isn't surprising....a 4000lb+ car with driver and over 600hp with similar torque....launching all that weight and power through AWD drag radials...something has to give eventually....
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12-27-2008, 08:15 PM | #15 |
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It's not the HP of highly modded GTR's that are causing transmissions to break. Do a little reading. Stock cars are commonly breaking them, and buyers have to sign away their rights. Launch control is being ditched for a reason.
Nissan has really done the public a disservice not only by selling a car with this issue, but not adequately disclosing the cost of operating a GTR, especially if the owner is going to use it for anything other than grocery shopping. Factor in the special fluid costs, frequent brake replacement, frequent service interval (if the car is actually used as it was supposedly intended) etc. and it's really a bad deal. As to the jealousy thing, most people who can buy an M3 can probably afford a GTR. I'm not wealthy, but my M3 is not close to being the only vehicle in my garage, and if I wanted a high maintenance vehicle with a playstation interior that is prone to breakage I could have bought a GTR. I think (like a lot of other people here) that whatever BMW or Porsche lose in performance they more than make up for in style, build quality, and reliability. The GTR is only going to be the fastest kid on the block for so long anyways, and in a while it will just be another broken down Nissan. Especially when owners find out they broke the bank to buy one not knowing what it will take to keep it running. |
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12-27-2008, 08:36 PM | #16 |
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great performing car, but a car needs to be able to drive to a track and back home and be able to take a beating to be most people's garage, most people don't have just a dedicated track car, unless they have mucho $$.
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12-27-2008, 10:18 PM | #17 |
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The GT-R is a great car. For its price I think only the Z06 can even come close to compete in performance in its price range...that said, it's unnecessarily rare and very overhyped (like the Audi r8).
I think there is an inherited hatred toward the GT-R because it is amazing as a track car and that takes away from the traditional supercars. It's heavy, relatively cheap, ugly (imo) and doesn't require much skill to drive fast. It is NOT RIGHT |
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12-28-2008, 04:23 AM | #18 |
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I'd take a Vette for one: it is cheap especially in this economy, and second it is even cheaper to fix. Send the car to some fat block in Kentucky and it will come back just as new. GTR serves one purpose and it's to perform hence one would think Nissan would make it bullet proof but, it's a shame, the old Nissan tranny issue still plagues its flagship model after all these years. The car has so much potential. |
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12-28-2008, 12:31 PM | #21 | |
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I think we are in basic agreement on the car, but I disagree with you on the attitude of the M3 owners concerning the GTR. A thread starts with a video of a GTR blowing a transmission, and what are we supposed to say? "GTR's have awesome transmissions"? If we say anything factual that is negative then we are jealous of the car? We've had plenty of obnoxious GTR owners visit here bashing M3's, and maybe that has contributed to some of us laughing at the failures and maintenance issues. The GTR might be a low price supercar (not when you factor in keeping it running), but aren't supercars supposed to be somewhat reliable and capable of operating at their limits without voiding warranties, blowing up or needing serious repairs? If a Corvette had the same maintenance/repair issues what would we be saying? If you want to throw the M3 in as a comparison, I'd say it's pretty near supercar performance at an even better price point. The fact that C/D has it lapping Laguna faster than a $95K Porsche, 0-60 in the very low 4's, and able to do these things (and use launch control) without needing repairs or voiding warranties is pretty cool too. Plus it seats 4 adults! |
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12-29-2008, 07:31 PM | #22 | |
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Jealous or hatin, choose one. Anyone with any respect for a car of this caliber would never put it in the "another broke down Nissan" category. I can afford a GT-R, before I bought the M3 and after. But I'll wait to see what the deal is with it a year from now. And I have to admit... I am jealous! Not your kind of jealous, where i calmly post certain truths with an injection of obvious jealously fueled criticisms like "just another broke down nissan". Im jealous cus I would loooove for my M3 to be able to put out those kinds of numbers. Im jealous cus Im an M3 fanatic and it just got its position swiped from under him by a nissan. Im jealous cus i think it would be cool to have a nav/on board comp designed by Polyphony Digital in a BMW. But im not jealous enough to laugh at someone that has enough balls to blow a tranny being one of the first to ever tune and tame a beast like the GT-R. And im not jealous enough to use it against Nissan and the GT-R to discredit it as an outstanding accomplishment and one hell of an automotive landmark. Because as a car fan, I appreciate and respect every last bit thats gone into making the GT-R the unrealistically capable animal that it is. EVEN if it does have some major issues in its first year in production. Best regards, 3XTR3M3 - 5 time 3 series owner, 3 time M3 owner
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