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Let's look at the situation here. Savage.ulm asks a question in regard to the M3 vs the M5, wherein the M5 reaches 124 mph 1.6 seconds quicker than the M3, and reaches the kilometer mark .6 seconds before the M3. From this he infers that the M3 is quicker up top, and has made up ground against the M5, to the tune of one second. So, in the context of one car against another, each with differing acceleration curves, I point out that time to speed and time to distance are very nearly unrelated, which of course is absolutely correct. Quote:
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So of course we agree, notwithstanding your original disagreement. And by the way, my belief is that your original disagreement was deliberately obtuse, because you're just not that stupid. You can protest if you like and say that you really are that stupid, but I'm not buying it. So my question is, why? Why bother with deliberately obtuse disagreement? Bruce |
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[QUOTE=bruce.augenstein@comcast.;1265331]But of course they *are* very nearly unrelated, as you go on to say in your note.
Gee, ya think? I hereby award you the No-Shit-Sherlock medal with oak leaf cluster. Let's look at the situation here. Savage.ulm asks a question in regard to the M3 vs the M5, wherein the M5 reaches 124 mph 1.6 seconds quicker than the M3, and reaches the kilometer mark .6 seconds before the M3. From this he infers that the M3 is quicker up top, and has made up ground against the M5, to the tune of one second. Ops...sorry...to you and Swamp. I didn't want to open a fight. I was only a little confused and that's all. :-) we need to be quite and relaxed,I think...So come on..a little bier togheter and that's all...ok? |
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Just updating the data.
0-200 km/hr acceleration (124mph):
100 km/h - 0 braking distance:
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You have two entries for the RS4 in 100-0. Where is this new information coming from?
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Sorry.. fixed..
Braking figures from EVO, accel figures from AUTOMOBIL, but google will find you similar results anywhere the car was actually tested (I think the old numbers reflected the original spec figures released by Audi) I honestly don't know if there are significant performance differences between the euro and US versions, as there are sizeable weight differences.. Last edited by absoluteis350; 08-14-2007 at 12:37 PM.. |
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08-14-2007, 12:17 PM | #97 |
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Thanks for updating the RS4 figures, but there is no need to color them. This is a M3 forum--that's the only figure that needs to brought into attention otherwise we'd be coloring everything.
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I believe the M3 numbers were from officially released times.
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Yes, the list is a compilation from various sources, one of which is BMW, but it is not clear what came from where at this point.
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0-200 km/hr acceleration (124mph): 3.4 sec 100 km/h - 0 braking distance: 15m 0-1000m time: 12 sec
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Bruce, You have a way of stating the most obvious, then either taking a devil's advocet approuch or leaving the thought unfinished. Then when we dissagree you hope the fence. Your quoted statment above says absolutly nothing. It's all gibberish and never really definitive! You agree to nothing and say even less. You say the time slips it's Obvious who the winner is, then say: "BRAAAP!! Wrong! Thank you for playing! " But it is obvious that you had a higher terminal velocity. So how are we wrong ? Quote:
Nothing wrong with "infering" using 2 data points. Just like knowing forst to 100mph and over-all speed at the 1/4 mile. You can see trap speeds and know who was charging at the end! But picking an exact MPH and saying nothing more would not indicate anything without also knowing the finishing times and MPH. BRAAAP!! Wrong! Thank you for playing! -Garrett |
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It's good for it's purpose. Until we get a full review against other combatants on the same corse, same day... this will have to do. Will also add Nurb times when that number is realased. 0-200 km/hr acceleration (124mph):
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Those who are M3 owners...and those that are M3 drivers. The wannabes and their rhetoric about how disappointed they are in the new M3...its not worth x amount more for the M3...how they would mod their wannabe 335i to M3 power (HA! HA!) how it is "marginally" faster than the 335i...all I can say is "Grasshopper...snatch the stone from my hand..." (old Kung Fu reference - the Master speaking to young dumb and still learning Kane...) The M3 WALKS that ass. W-A-L-K-S THAT ASS. My whip modded still has significantly less than the new M3 and just the other day while on a beautiful ride down I-75 I came across a Grasshopper. He screamed up to my bumper...and Master had to commence with the lesson. I cannot WAIT for the new M3 to arrive. Worth every penny...worth every HP...because I am DRIVER...I am MASTER...GRASSHOPPERS...snatch the stone...
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That is a very idiotic statement. I am an ex E46 owner and I am dissapointed a little in the new ///M. If you were a REAL driver, you would never buy a heavy GT car in the first place, but a Lotus or at least a Porsche. A 335 is obviously not as good as the new ///M however it is much cheaper, especially in Europe. So for the price, the new M is definetly a little lacking, especially considering that in Europe it comes NAKED and well equipped is 997S money.
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