Track Square Setup

w00tw00t · 09-18-2011, 01:15 PM

So I have a 275/35/18 square setup and have run three trackdays at pacific raceways, mostly a left hander track and am planning to rotate my wheels.

My question is what sequence should I follow?

Should I do a cross - Front Right to Rear Left and Front Left to Rear Right .. or straight - front left to rear left and front right to rear right ? sorry if this is a newb question..

1MOREMOD · 09-18-2011, 01:35 PM

That depends if you want to dismount and remount and balance. I'm assuming your tires are directional so can only go front to rear without taking them off the rim. I intend to run rest of season as is then do a left to right switch so my outside edge becomes my inside edge and vise versa. I will also put fronts to backs to try and even up the wear as fronts are seeing more especially passenger side at PR.

von_zoom · 09-18-2011, 02:22 PM

What kind of tires are you running. Example - BFG g ForceR1s can be rotated in any combination desired. If any direction is approved by your tire manufact. rotate in opositon to ware pattern indicated on the tires.
vz

elh0102 · 09-18-2011, 02:46 PM

For dry conditions, I would rotate as needed for best tire life. Even directional tires are fine running in the opposite direction in the dry. If they are asymetrical, then of course direction makes no difference. The advantage of directional tires, they can be flipped on the wheel to allow inside-out rotation if camber wear is an issue.

1MOREMOD · 09-18-2011, 03:05 PM

Is that really true? Can I run my advans backwards on the track? Switxh left to right without dismount.

w00tw00t · 09-18-2011, 03:44 PM

hmm.. I have dunlop star specs... they have directional arrows.. since these are my street tires I guess my rotation choices are limited..

elh0102 · 09-18-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by w00tw00t

hmm.. I have dunlop star specs... they have directional arrows.. since these are my street tires I guess my rotation choices are limited..

Right, I would not leave them backwards for general street use.

1MOREMOD · 09-18-2011, 05:06 PM

Same boat as me. Go front to back first if your on square then dismount and swap sides.

w00tw00t · 09-18-2011, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chriszeh

Same boat as me. Go front to back first if your on square then dismount and swap sides.

ok thanks chris - will do this tomorrow.

1MOREMOD · 09-20-2011, 11:54 AM

after all that i think im going to swap right and left front next. then go front to back. then right and left rear so basically moving my front passenger tire around the car as it is the most worn on the outside edge from PR. i figure with this route i will get 9-12 days out of my set of advan ad08s which i think is really pretty good.

wwjd15 · 09-20-2011, 11:57 AM

I only swap front left with rear right, and front right with rear left. That's just my driving style though. Tires normally don't worth to dismount since I can't do it by myself.

1MOREMOD · 09-20-2011, 02:24 PM

i cant go right to left like that without a dismount as i run the ad08s on the street as well. figure since my inside edges are feathered and cupping some the side swap with dismount will even out some of the wear.

09-18-2011, 01:15 PM	#1
w00tw00t Colonel 408 Rep 2,171 Posts Drives: 2016 MW M4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (13)	Track Square Setup - Rotation Question So I have a 275/35/18 square setup and have run three trackdays at pacific raceways, mostly a left hander track and am planning to rotate my wheels. My question is what sequence should I follow? Should I do a cross - Front Right to Rear Left and Front Left to Rear Right .. or straight - front left to rear left and front right to rear right ? sorry if this is a newb question..
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	That depends if you want to dismount and remount and balance. I'm assuming your tires are directional so can only go front to rear without taking them off the rim. I intend to run rest of season as is then do a left to right switch so my outside edge becomes my inside edge and vise versa. I will also put fronts to backs to try and even up the wear as fronts are seeing more especially passenger side at PR. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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von_zoom Captain 30 Rep 915 Posts Drives: 2010 Z06 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Carolina iTrader: (0)	What kind of tires are you running. Example - BFG g ForceR1s can be rotated in any combination desired. If any direction is approved by your tire manufact. rotate in opositon to ware pattern indicated on the tires. vz __________________ Previous Track Toy
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elh0102 Captain 15 Rep 751 Posts Drives: 2009 335i coupe Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	For dry conditions, I would rotate as needed for best tire life. Even directional tires are fine running in the opposite direction in the dry. If they are asymetrical, then of course direction makes no difference. The advantage of directional tires, they can be flipped on the wheel to allow inside-out rotation if camber wear is an issue.
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1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	Is that really true? Can I run my advans backwards on the track? Switxh left to right without dismount. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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w00tw00t Colonel 408 Rep 2,171 Posts Drives: 2016 MW M4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: San Jose, CA iTrader: (13)	hmm.. I have dunlop star specs... they have directional arrows.. since these are my street tires I guess my rotation choices are limited..
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09-18-2011, 05:06 PM	#8
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	Same boat as me. Go front to back first if your on square then dismount and swap sides. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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09-20-2011, 11:54 AM	#10
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	after all that i think im going to swap right and left front next. then go front to back. then right and left rear so basically moving my front passenger tire around the car as it is the most worn on the outside edge from PR. i figure with this route i will get 9-12 days out of my set of advan ad08s which i think is really pretty good. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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09-20-2011, 11:57 AM	#11
wwjd15 Banned 89 Rep 1,315 Posts Drives: 11 E92 M3 MR Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orange County iTrader: (6)	I only swap front left with rear right, and front right with rear left. That's just my driving style though. Tires normally don't worth to dismount since I can't do it by myself.
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09-20-2011, 02:24 PM	#12
1MOREMOD - 11817 Rep 23,187 Posts Drives: Race car-> Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: check your mirrors iTrader: (5)	i cant go right to left like that without a dismount as i run the ad08s on the street as well. figure since my inside edges are feathered and cupping some the side swap with dismount will even out some of the wear. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC bars\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster\|Euro header\|BW exhaust\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|Rouge pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|apr gt 250 & splitter\|ST-40\|XR-2\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|BW studs\|
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