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      01-19-2011, 02:44 PM   #221
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Ok that's it. I'm puting on sale the M3 GTS #007, to buy an estoril blue M3 E92 to make it more aggressive ;-)
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      01-19-2011, 04:30 PM   #222
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My favorite M3 of all time,

can you shoot me a PM for the price of the following:

BMW M3 Edition front grilles
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      01-19-2011, 05:15 PM   #223
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I seriously doubt anyone cares about making you a believer.

Where did IND state they were creating a car to achieve x time on x track?

This is no poseur car I can assure you!
That's figure of speech, I wasn't expecting or care anyone to do so, because I know no engineering system test was ever performed to test race worthiness of the car before and after the modification. Reason why I pose those questions is because of their claim:

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Too many cars getting full page features in magazines these days are merely smoke and mirrors. Friends of mine in the magazine business have told me of cars showing up to photoshoots having to be pushed off of a trailer because the motor hasn’t run in months. I hear of cars with enormous widebody conversions and motorsport inspired liveries that still have factory braking components all the way down to brake pad, terrible quality tires of unkown branding and origin that barely have enough grip for the street, and a rear muffler as the car’s only performance modification. These cars are not an expression of a shop’s love for automobiles as they should be, but rather an inauthentic push for profit, and profit alone.
I don't think tossing (tossing used generally, IND did it tastefully) a whole bunch of premium parts like ones found on a race car translates to a race ready car and represents true motor sports passion. I gave IND props for making an excellent show and street car, which if I would to build a similar street car I would definitely call them. Case in point is that extended shifter on a 6spd manual to mimic appearance of a sequential gear box found on race cars. Also the oversize wheels pointed out by another poster. All those premium parts no doubt improved stock M3 in certain aspect but in terms of how well each integrate and synegistically create more value than individually is up for question. I think it's smoke and mirrors to the next level. Don't take it negatively, it's meant in a good way.

Let me put it simply. If I am to run http://www.onelapofamerica.com/ tomorrow, I am not going to stop at IND's modifications. A lot more work needs to be done to ensure the car will finish and finish in top position.
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      01-19-2011, 05:18 PM   #224
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My favorite M3 of all time,

can you shoot me a PM for the price of the following:

BMW M3 Edition front grilles
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BMW Motorsport tow strap
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IND reflector delete
Gloss black center mesh front and rear bumper inserts

Thanks!
Send Nate a PM: Nate@IND
They are amazing to work with! Always go to them first when modding
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      01-19-2011, 05:18 PM   #225
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Send Nate a PM: Nate@IND
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My favorite M3 of all time,

can you shoot me a PM for the price of the following:

BMW M3 Edition front grilles
BMW M3 Edition side grilles with IND tinted LED
BMW Motorsport tow strap
Varis Japan Diffuser
IND reflector delete
Gloss black center mesh front and rear bumper inserts

Thanks!
I'll get a pm over to you.
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      01-19-2011, 05:21 PM   #226
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That's figure of speech, I wasn't expecting or care anyone to do so, because I know no engineering system test was ever performed to test race worthiness of the car before and after the modification. Reason why I pose those questions is because of their claim:



I don't think tossing a whole bunch of premium parts like ones found on a race car translates to a race ready car and represents true motor sports passion. I gave IND props for making an excellent show and street car, which if I would to build a similar street car I would definitely call them. Case in point is that extended shifter on a 6spd manual to mimic appearance of a sequential gear box found on race cars. Also the oversize wheels pointed out by another poster. All those premium parts no doubt improved stock M3 in certain aspect but in terms of how well each integrate and synegistically create more value than individually is up for question. I think it's smoke and mirrors to the next level. Don't take it negatively, it's meant in a good way.


If all these mods were done on a 135 you would be shitting your pants.

edit: And how can calling it "smoke and mirrors" not be a bad thing? Its not David fucking Blain or Chris Angel, its an M3. Just because you say "not meant negatively" does not mean its not negative lol.
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If all these mods were done on a 135 you would be shitting your pants.

edit: And how can calling it "smoke and mirrors" not be a bad thing? Its not David fucking Blain or Chris Angel, its an M3. Just because you say "not meant negatively" does not mean its not negative lol.
You are entitled to your opinion. In the end it's still your opinion. Same applies to mine so you don't feel its unfair.

How am I hating? I said it's great car but not as functional as claimed. So it comes down to 135 vs M3 argument? How is that relevant to discussion at hand or simply you trying to wrap your head around my opinion? If so that's pretty Neanderthal conclusion.
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      01-19-2011, 05:58 PM   #228
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I like the project... looks very close to what I would do if I had the money...

And for real track time I believe a switch to a better set and match of tires, a good alignment and suspension set-up is all you really need...

And the wing that few people like serves a purpose... especially at that height...

just my 2cents.
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      01-19-2011, 06:13 PM   #229
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      01-19-2011, 06:39 PM   #230
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You are entitled to your opinion. In the end it's still your opinion. Same applies to mine so you don't feel its unfair.

How am I hating? I said it's great car but not as functional as claimed. So it comes down to 135 vs M3 argument? How is that relevant to discussion at hand or simply you trying to wrap your head around my opinion? If so that's pretty Neanderthal conclusion.
Hey, its just my opinion. Not 135 vs M3 at all. Just saying that if it was a 135, you would most likely be focusing on how awesome it is rather than how awesome its not. But again, just my opinion, right?
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bring the spoiler down a foot..
otherwise im in love
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      01-19-2011, 07:09 PM   #232
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So awesome it's a 6MT!
i love the red rims
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      01-19-2011, 07:22 PM   #233
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Hey, its just my opinion. Not 135 vs M3 at all. Just saying that if it was a 135, you would most likely be focusing on how awesome it is rather than how awesome its not. But again, just my opinion, right?
agreed,

I think that's a down side of getting a thread on the front page: the majority the criticisms are from non-M3 owners.


just my $0.02
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      01-19-2011, 08:41 PM   #234
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Too bad that what was looking like a great project got ruined by that very cheesy topless graphic and cheap looking steering wheel & shifter.
I happen to think his Nardi steering wheel is very nice...
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      01-19-2011, 11:15 PM   #236
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      01-19-2011, 11:46 PM   #237
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you guys did a amazing job on this car. it is amazing! nate i was wondering if you could shoot me a email so i can talk to you about getting in contact with the owner, seeing that he only lives 1.5hrs from me. just let me know

photo.kjm at gmail.com

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What are the exact specs on the wing?

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      01-20-2011, 01:40 AM   #239
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I don't believe it...I was going to do that EXACT same color combo once I get my SG M3 this May. Guess I can't anymore without being a poser looks fucking badass though!
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Also exact specs on lowering/suspension?
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What are the exact specs on the wing?

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Also exact specs on lowering/suspension?
I'm sure IND will chime in in a few hours... If not shoot them a PM
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I don't believe it...I was going to do that EXACT same color combo once I get my SG M3 this May. Guess I can't anymore without being a poser looks fucking badass though!
Thats absurd. I guess aside from the first ever AW with black rims/accents, the rest are posers.
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