Active Autowerke VS ESS SC real world comparison video

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 01:04 PM

I came across this on another forum and I thought it'd be interesting to post. When I had an M3 I was actually looking into both kits (I decided to take the money for a SC and just buy a GTR instead)

Here is what I can gather:

White E90 M3 - AA Stage 2+

DCT
Full cat less exhaust

Black E92 M3 - ESS VT1-535 (Camera Car)

DCT
Upgraded Pulleys
Methanol Kit
Fully cat less w/ cutouts

Grey E92 M3 - ESS VT2-600

DCT
96.5mm Pulleys
Akra exhaust

The Active car simply pulls! If you look back to other threads people were bashing the kit say that it was really not much quicker than the ESS-535 kit or even the 600 kit.

The black e92 shows some impressive power with the upgraded pulley and meth injection, I think the car running the 600 kit w/ meth vs the AA car would be interesting

erm324 · 09-07-2012, 01:07 PM

repost

THE TECH · 09-07-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by erm324

repost

+1

schnell325 · 09-07-2012, 01:13 PM

IBTL!!!!!

chris s · 09-07-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Team Plutonium

Here. We. Go.

Where's that "jerkit" icon anyways?

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by erm324

repost

My bad, I didn't realize that it was a repost. Where's the other thread?

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schnell325

IBTL!!!!!

I don't understand why this thread would get locked? There is nothing wrong or against the rules with sharing a video that features two popular products sold on these forums.

I'm not a vendor selling anything, I have no ties to any company remotely related to the BMW industry, and there is nothing bias about my post (especially since I haven't even stated an opinion)

If you can point out why this thread should be locked I'd love to hear it

NoM3ForMe · 09-07-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by kthxbye

If you can point out why this thread should be locked I'd love to hear it

Going out on a limb here, but maybe because it is a repost? Like I said, just guessing (and not trying to be a wise ass, either).

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NoM3ForMe

Going out on a limb here, but maybe because it is a repost? Like I said, just guessing (and not trying to be a wise ass, either).

I know you're not, its just that I didn't know this was a repost and I can't even find the other thread. Maybe I took the comments too harshly.

schnell325 · 09-07-2012, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kthxbye

I don't understand why this thread would get locked? There is nothing wrong or against the rules with sharing a video that features two popular products sold on these forums.

I'm not a vendor selling anything, I have no ties to any company remotely related to the BMW industry, and there is nothing bias about my post (especially since I haven't even stated an opinion)

If you can point out why this thread should be locked I'd love to hear it

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=741777

I wasn't trying to knock you by any means, but I had just looked at this thread, containing the same information, and it's been locked.

SflBimmer8484 · 09-07-2012, 02:40 PM

I knew it was only a matter of time

Just a note as well... All of our stage 2 kits are shipping with the same blower as the one in the video.

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by schnell325

Quote:

Originally Posted by kthxbye

I don't understand why this thread would get locked? There is nothing wrong or against the rules with sharing a video that features two popular products sold on these forums.

I'm not a vendor selling anything, I have no ties to any company remotely related to the BMW industry, and there is nothing bias about my post (especially since I haven't even stated an opinion)

If you can point out why this thread should be locked I'd love to hear it

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=741777

I wasn't trying to knock you by any means, but I had just looked at this thread, containing the same information, and it's been locked.

Thanks for tracking that down. Hopefully mine doesn't get locked, I think it's a cool video

I could care less about the drama between owners of different kits. Everyone makes a good product, competition makes everyone bettwr

SflBimmer8484 · 09-07-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kthxbye

Thanks for tracking that down. Hopefully mine doesn't get locked, I think it's a cool video

I could care less about the drama between owners of different kits. Everyone makes a good product, competition makes everyone bettwr

It shouldn't be locked I see a ton of street racing videos of Ess cars right below yours.

flipm3 · 09-07-2012, 05:09 PM

I think people should appreciate the way you constructed this post. Not trying to downplay or criticize anyone's product.

What this video shows is actually how good both kits really are. It clearly shows the strengths of the AA Stage 2, as well as, how great of a deal the VT1-535 is. Finally, one can visually see the benefits of running meth.

I don't see any need for anyone to turn this into something that it's not intended to be.

Thanks for sharing the video.

EDIT: It must be noted that the Grey E92 M3 also is supposedly on big 20" wheels which we all know are giant anchors, especially at rolling speeds. I heard he put down awesome 1/4mi times on 19s.

Kensta335 · 09-07-2012, 05:12 PM

Damn, AA car is moving.

kthxbye · 09-07-2012, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipm3

I think people should appreciate the way you constructed this post. Not trying to downplay or criticize anyone's product.

What this video shows is actually how good both kits really are. It clearly shows the strengths of the AA Stage 2, as well as, how great of a deal the VT1-535 is. Finally, one can visually see the benefits of running meth.

I don't see any need for anyone to turn this into something that it's not intended to be.

Thanks for sharing the video.

EDIT: It must be noted that the Grey E92 M3 also is supposedly on big 20" wheels which we all know are giant anchors, especially at rolling speeds. I heard he put down awesome 1/4mi times on 19s.

Good call on the wheels, I'm sure that additional rotating mass plays a factor

SflBimmer8484 · 09-07-2012, 07:15 PM

Or the heavy air filter

GOVCO · 09-07-2012, 07:45 PM

Was that Ahkash's AA car? What do you think the difference is in whp between the two? Maybe 480 whp (ESS 535) vs. 540+/-whp for AA stg 2... Thoughts?

Powerbeast · 09-07-2012, 07:45 PM

I vote for ESS anyday of the week.... ESS FTW!!!!!!

rjd598 · 09-07-2012, 07:47 PM

i don't see anything strange here. all cars performed accordingly with what each car was equipped with

sales@ESSTuning · 09-07-2012, 08:42 PM

We had a similar result running our VT2-625 VS VT1-535. I would be more interested in seeing this AA car run a VT2-650 considering they are both running about 8.5 psi

flipm3 · 09-07-2012, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Roman@ESS

We had a similar result running our VT2-625 VS VT1-535. I would be more interested in seeing this AA car run a VT2-650 considering they are both running about 8.5 psi

Now we're talking!!!

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kthxbye Banned 48 Rep 454 Posts Drives: '11 M3 Coupe Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Central & North NJ iTrader: (0)	Active Autowerke VS ESS SC real world comparison video I came across this on another forum and I thought it'd be interesting to post. When I had an M3 I was actually looking into both kits (I decided to take the money for a SC and just buy a GTR instead) Here is what I can gather: White E90 M3 - AA Stage 2+ DCT Full cat less exhaust Black E92 M3 - ESS VT1-535 (Camera Car) DCT Upgraded Pulleys Methanol Kit Fully cat less w/ cutouts Grey E92 M3 - ESS VT2-600 DCT 96.5mm Pulleys Akra exhaust The Active car simply pulls! If you look back to other threads people were bashing the kit say that it was really not much quicker than the ESS-535 kit or even the 600 kit. The black e92 shows some impressive power with the upgraded pulley and meth injection, I think the car running the 600 kit w/ meth vs the AA car would be interesting
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SflBimmer8484 Brigadier General 1469 Rep 3,157 Posts Drives: . Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Florida iTrader: (5)	I knew it was only a matter of time Just a note as well... All of our stage 2 kits are shipping with the same blower as the one in the video.
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GOVCO Lieutenant 16 Rep 439 Posts Drives: 09 E90 AW M3 DCT [Slight Mods] Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Was that Ahkash's AA car? What do you think the difference is in whp between the two? Maybe 480 whp (ESS 535) vs. 540+/-whp for AA stg 2... Thoughts?
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sales@ESSTuning 391 Rep 3,149 Posts Drives: ESS M3 / M4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: AZ iTrader: (6)	We had a similar result running our VT2-625 VS VT1-535. I would be more interested in seeing this AA car run a VT2-650 considering they are both running about 8.5 psi
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