VREDESTEIN Ultrac Sessanta?

Paddy · 02-01-2010, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jze90M3

I need replacement tires soon and interested in the Vred's as well. Im just curious on what people do if they get a flat and dont have a local Vred dealer in the area? Im assuming the advantage going w/ Michelin or other common brands is that you could source a replacement tire in a major metro area quickly vs. waiting day(s) for a replacement Vred to ship??? Interested to know if anyone has had an unexpected issue with these and needed quick replacement?

The set I ordered 255/18/35 and 275/18/35 is taking a MONTH for me to get. Luckily I don't need them just yet and I have a second set of wheels that I can swap out, but it would be a big problem if I had to replace a tire far away from home.

GregW / Oregon · 02-01-2010, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jze90M3

I need replacement tires soon and interested in the Vred's as well. Im just curious on what people do if they get a flat and dont have a local Vred dealer in the area? Im assuming the advantage going w/ Michelin or other common brands is that you could source a replacement tire in a major metro area quickly vs. waiting day(s) for a replacement Vred to ship??? Interested to know if anyone has had an unexpected issue with these and needed quick replacement?

In 45 years of driving I've maybe ruined one tire to the point of needing to replace it. Flats are repairable more often than not. Worst case is you need to wait a couple days to get one flown in. PS2s in the correct size are certainly more common, but not necessarily available immediately in all but the largest cities. Good question, though.

aus · 02-01-2010, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8000

I thought that the Vreds don't come out in 265... thus the 275 choice (versus the 265 stock in the M3s)

Guys, if there are more people that have used these tyres please speak up and provide your feedback. I would be very interested to hear opinions as I might go the Vred way. My stock PS2s will need replacement soon...

I think if there are any problems with these tires, you'd see a LOT of people bashing on them, but you don't. That tells you something there since people are much more likely to post a negative comment than a positive comment when everything is working well.

Mine are finally broken in and are sticking nicely. I don't have a track day to compare, but for street driving, they're great. They are a little stiffer on the any impacts, an thus a little louder as well on impact; this is expected given the stiffer sidewall.

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Paddy · 02-01-2010, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

I think if there are any problems with these tires, you'd see a LOT of people bashing on them, but you don't. That tells you something there since people are much more likely to post a negative comment than a positive comment when everything is working well.

Mine are finally broken in and are sticking nicely. I don't have a track day to compare, but for street driving, they're great. They are a little stiffer on the any impacts, an thus a little louder as well on impact; this is expected given the stiffer sidewall.

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I read somewhere that the manufacturer recommends higher PSI inflation for these tires but can't find any more specific info. Anyone know anything about this?

jze90M3 · 02-02-2010, 08:08 AM

Thanks Greg for your feedback -- I have never had an issue with a tire myself either, but was food for thought since the M3 has no spare or RFT. I personally I think its worth the gamble since these tires seem to be an incredible value

GregW / Oregon · 02-02-2010, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jze90M3

Thanks Greg for your feedback -- I have never had an issue with a tire myself either, but was food for thought since the M3 has no spare or RFT. I personally I think its worth the gamble since these tires seem to be an incredible value

Mine has a spare, but then that's another thread. I also carry a plug kit.

gr8000 · 02-02-2010, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

I think if there are any problems with these tires, you'd see a LOT of people bashing on them, but you don't. That tells you something there since people are much more likely to post a negative comment than a positive comment when everything is working well.

Absolotely true but it could also be that no-one, or very few use them (which may send a negative signal). I don't think so but it is also a posibility...

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Originally Posted by aus

Mine are finally broken in and are sticking nicely. I don't have a track day to compare, but for street driving, they're great. They are a little stiffer on the any impacts, an thus a little louder as well on impact; this is expected given the stiffer sidewall.

Thanks for your feedback - please keep us posted when you get to push the tyres more.

Realpimp23 · 02-02-2010, 10:10 AM

U get what u pay for!

U can never compare the performance/handling from a PS2 to a Vredestein!

foosh · 02-02-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Realpimp23

All I gotta say: U get what u pay for!

U can never compare the performance/handling from a PS2 to a Tire thats made by a Indian Tire Company!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vredestein

Vredestein performance tires for automobles are produced in the Netherlands, just like they've always been. You sound pretty clueless, because you obviously haven't done any research on the performance of these tires. Wiki . . . really.

LiM3y · 02-02-2010, 10:38 AM

This is so idiotic on so many levels, it is actually quite remarkable.

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Originally Posted by Realpimp23

All I gotta say: U get what u pay for!

U can never compare the performance/handling from a PS2 to a Tire thats made by a Indian Tire Company!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vredestein

major_kusanagi · 02-02-2010, 10:39 AM

"The primary factory is at Enschede, The Netherlands, while other products like agricultural tyres and bicycle tires are manufactured overseas (e.g. India, Thailand, Indonesia)."

shoot, foosh beat me to it...

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Originally Posted by Realpimp23

All I gotta say: U get what u pay for!

U can never compare the performance/handling from a PS2 to a Tire thats made by a Indian Tire Company!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vredestein

aus · 02-02-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LiM3y

This is so idiotic on so many levels, it is actually quite remarkable.

Agreed.

Realpimp23 · 02-02-2010, 01:44 PM

im sorry if that sounded ignorant, but the tire itself suck!

I said that u cant compare a PS2 with a Vredestein! They dont play in the same league.

Anyways, You have a $70K car and you trying to safe some money on tires...
I had the Vredestein before and I was really disappointed
IMO

gr8000 · 02-02-2010, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Realpimp23

I had the Vredestein before and I was really disappointed

Can you expand and tell us more about your experiences? Why were you disapointed?

Paddy · 02-02-2010, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8000

Can you expand and tell us more about your experiences? Why were you disapointed?

Maybe the Tractor tires weren't fitting on his rims right?

I did a lot of research on these tires before ordering a set. The responses were overwhelmingly positive. It seems they are a little greasy before break-in but after that they perform well.

It'll be a few more weeks before I can add my own personal review.

GregW / Oregon · 02-02-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by gr8000

Can you expand and tell us more about your experiences? Why were you disapointed?

I think his handle says it all, but the Vred tread is pretty pimp, IMO.

KANdaddy · 02-04-2010, 07:14 PM

This thread is great. Going to get a set of these. Thanks for all the info!

Stupid question...do new tires require new TPMS too or can I reuse the stock ones?

Thanks!

GregW / Oregon · 02-04-2010, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KANdaddy

This thread is great. Going to get a set of these. Thanks for all the info!

Stupid question...do new tires require new TPMS too or can I reuse the stock ones?

Thanks!

You can reuse the OEM ones. After several years the batteries will give out, though.

Paddy · 02-04-2010, 11:13 PM

I've ordered a set of 275/35 square for my autox/track setup. I'll put in a review when I get some miles on them.

terry · 02-05-2010, 12:06 PM

I've had a full set installed by my BMW dealer last Tuesday and they reinstalled the OEM TPMS sensors. So far I hae no complaints with the Vred's. And in wet conditions, I find them a little better than the PS2.

e90-4aj · 02-06-2010, 05:19 PM

thanks for the update

sun · 02-07-2010, 01:37 AM

Does anyone have pics of the Vreds on the stock 19's in 255/275? ---Disregard, I found some pics.

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jze90M3 New Member 4 Rep 15 Posts Drives: SSII e90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC iTrader: (0)	Thanks Greg for your feedback -- I have never had an issue with a tire myself either, but was food for thought since the M3 has no spare or RFT. I personally I think its worth the gamble since these tires seem to be an incredible value
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Realpimp23 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 332 Posts Drives: E93 M3 JB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	U get what u pay for! U can never compare the performance/handling from a PS2 to a Vredestein! __________________ Last edited by Realpimp23; 02-02-2010 at 02:27 PM..
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Realpimp23 First Lieutenant 11 Rep 332 Posts Drives: E93 M3 JB Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Germany iTrader: (0)	im sorry if that sounded ignorant, but the tire itself suck! I said that u cant compare a PS2 with a Vredestein! They dont play in the same league. Anyways, You have a $70K car and you trying to safe some money on tires... I had the Vredestein before and I was really disappointed IMO __________________ Last edited by Realpimp23; 02-02-2010 at 02:25 PM..
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KANdaddy Colonel 2497 Rep 2,812 Posts Drives: 22 M3C XDrive-Ind Grey Blk Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Cali iTrader: (5)	This thread is great. Going to get a set of these. Thanks for all the info! Stupid question...do new tires require new TPMS too or can I reuse the stock ones? Thanks! __________________
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Paddy Captain 74 Rep 664 Posts Drives: 18' M2, AW Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (1)	I've ordered a set of 275/35 square for my autox/track setup. I'll put in a review when I get some miles on them. __________________
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terry Second Lieutenant 39 Rep 295 Posts Drives: 2009 M3 Convert Jerez Black Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Misssissippi, USA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2023 BMW X3 XDrive30i [0.00] 2022 Porsche Taycan [0.00] 2009 E93 M3 Dinan P1 [0.00]	I've had a full set installed by my BMW dealer last Tuesday and they reinstalled the OEM TPMS sensors. So far I hae no complaints with the Vred's. And in wet conditions, I find them a little better than the PS2. __________________ E93 M3 Jerez Black / Bamboo Beige / Dinan P1 Performance Package
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sun Private 6 Rep 83 Posts Drives: 2015 428i Gran Coupe Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bellevue, WA iTrader: (3)	Does anyone have pics of the Vreds on the stock 19's in 255/275? ---Disregard, I found some pics. Last edited by sun; 02-07-2010 at 02:08 AM..
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