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04-04-2013, 02:15 PM | #1 |
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Yes another square setup question. 285s!
Everyone and their mom is running 275/35/18 square but is anyone going for 285s? The reason I ask is that I just picked up my first dedicated track wheelset (18x10 et25 APEX) and I'm set on NT05s which typically run narrow. 285/35 is only $7 more per tire so I'm considering it.
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There are. IIRC wwjd runs 285/285. I think most setups/most tires will rub if over 275 though in front. The 275's feel really good to me, I wouldn't bother with 285 and risk rubbing.
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Within the realm of rational sane normal people who just want to track their cars, what's posted above is totally correct of course, but...
Vendors are necessarily conservative with their recommendations because they don't have the time or inclination to test every permutation and don't want people coming back to them expecting them to fix something that isn't their problem. There's room for a lot of tire up front with careful wheel sizing and attention to clearance at the strut, but the only way to find out is to buy stuff and adjust as needed. I managed to get it right the first time with 295/30 and 315/30 Hoosiers but I did a lot of measuring and mental gymnastics before ordering anything. Based on my test-fitting with the 315 on a 9.5" wheel, I personally think it's possible to get the 315/30 Hoosier on the front of the car without cutting any bodywork as long as you're careful with ride height and have enough spring and camber to keep from banging it against the fender every time you hit a bump. Would need some light fender lining modifications and would need to run a 10-10.5" wheel rather than the 11.5-12 the tire would really like, but still, possible. I think the perfect square setup for the E9x M3 is a 305/30-18 on 10.5" wheels (would have to fine tune fitment with spacers) but the only tire in that size is the Kumho V710
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Was running 295 square @ Buttonwillow (Hankook TD) a couple of weeks ago.
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What's the diameter on the 295/30 TD? Wondering if they just took the 285 mold and added some meat to the middle or did a whole new tire
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295/30ZR18Y Hankook Ventus TD - 25.1" 285/30ZR18Y Hankook Ventus TD - 24.8" Hope this helps. I've got a set I've been itching to use since Time Attack.
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What are the widths and offsets of your wheels? I was able to run a 275/35-18 square setup on my old e46 M3 track prep'd car with no fender mods and reasonable front camber (street -2.75 deg; more aggressive track camber setting -3.7 deg).
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the problem is im using apex wheels in e9x size. 18x10 et 25. may fit with less negative but doubt it and thats where i would run it anyway for track car.
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What you'll find is that tire selection with 285s is very limited. So not a good idea unless you have a specific tire that comes in 285s. You have to go with either 275s or 295s.
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Some cheat and just add more camber to get tires and wheels to fit. Works for the street...not really as well on the track.
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The rear is easier with a roller tool. Just use something flat wrapped in a rag on the outside to prevent the lip from getting dented out and bang on the lip with a rubber mallet. Not a hammer. Be sure to make some relief cuts as shown in my E46F thread to prevent the edge of fender from curling in.
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