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Why would you get the same car? You are loosing a lot of money
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Oh and another car being faster shouldn't take away from someone's enjoyment. I mean M3 is quick, but it's certainly not the fastest car. |
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08-14-2011, 05:23 PM | #47 |
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The 2011 engine note has a more aggressive sound not sure why. I also get better fuel economy in the 2011. With-Out using engine stop/start mine averages 19.2+ combined The 2011 mirrors creak all the time, my door sounds like a cheap YUGO. Waiting for the mirror covers to fall off.
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The engine is a LOT LOUDER at start up compared to my- I prefer the old engine's start up, otherwise it seems about the same through my exhaust. The DCT seems to be REALLY reluctant to downshift in D3- obviously trying to get better mileage in the default setting. What's really strange is, the coilovers on the 2008 car had issues where they were only able to give me -2 camber on the passenger side front (I wanted -1.75), so no big deal. But on the new car, they said it lined up just fine. .
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08-14-2011, 06:53 PM | #49 |
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The DCT software update released around last summer (cant remember the exact date) was a game changer. Everyone I know that got it thought their cars felt quicker. ZCP had nothing to do with it, since the update was for all DCT cars.
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08-14-2011, 08:44 PM | #51 |
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I think this perception is due to going from a 3 year old car (with creaks, rattles, a little looser in most respects, worn suspension, etc) to a brand new one that is tight as a drum.
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08-15-2011, 12:16 AM | #52 |
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I am lucky enough to be able to change my cars every year without losing much money - won't bore you with the details but the cost to change the cars for me is very low. The reason i am getting another E90 M3 is that when the time came to order a new car there was no other car that suited my needs better than the M3 - its perfect for me at this point in my life.
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08-15-2011, 12:45 AM | #53 |
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That is due to the engine turning off and starting back up due to automatic engine stop and go feature. As the 2008 model's did not have it.
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08-15-2011, 12:50 AM | #54 |
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Unless it is less then $500 dollars. It would make no sense to change for the exact same identical car just a newer year.
But in your case it might make some sense as they are about to introduce some special version of E90 M3's. Also, I think you can also get the competition pkg on 2011.
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This is called the placebo effect. No difference in the motor or weight so it is not faster. It probably just feels that way because the shifts are faster. Steering probably feels 'tighter' because of the small drop and because the car is new. New suspension components, bushings, etc. We should just turn this one into another 6MT vs DTC. BTW, The DCT is WAY faster than 6MT
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08-15-2011, 01:35 AM | #57 |
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The oil cap is different, as is the gas cap. Both look cheaper, but the old oil cap didn't seal well, so maybe the new one will work better.
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Dct is way faster than 6mt. It's accleration is far more effortless and seamless. But the difference between my 2011 dct and 2008 6mt is more than just the difference in transmission and acceleration. The car overall feels way better. It's louder, meaner, more responsive, more alive. It just feels like a whole different animal. It even feels faster than my 997.2 c2s in some way.
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DCT does NOT make the car better necessarily (transmission is a preference) but it does make the car faster. There is no argument in that and even die hard 6MT guys would agree.
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I prefer later years in a series simply because they've had a chance to work out any issues. Remember windows 3.0? total flop. 3.1 was a much bigger success because they worked things out.
I did my research on the forum and various issues in 08 was resolved in 09. Of course many were taken care of by the dealerships in 08 but by 2011 you'd figure they got most of the "bugs" out. I bought my 2011 a little too early and missed out on the iphone integration. |
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I get my cars tax free (19% in Europe) and with a large discount on top due to my work - when i sell the car after a year the car is normally worth what i paid for it give or take.
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OK... what do you do, I want your job!
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2011 6MT delivery next month.. I will update this thread with my thoughts As far as DCT vs 6MT.. the DCT cars 'feel' a ton faster and having raced a few stock vs stock DCT cars, they in fact "are" faster because of the shifting speed. |
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