SSR NSX, just a heads up...

SoCal BimMn' · 09-13-2011, 04:28 PM

Wow I'd be beyond pissed quite honestly. And yeah it coulda been worst good thing it didn't happen at a straight away at higher speeds. Hopefully SSR does make it right. Just not cool.

Phil325 · 09-13-2011, 04:30 PM

wow that is bullshit. I want to hear SSR's response to this. Good thing your friend is ok

calypsoe36 · 09-13-2011, 04:54 PM

Whew, makes me glad I no longer have my 18" SSR Comps - they were notoriously weak wheels. I was always inspecting them for cracks.

Tee212 · 09-13-2011, 05:15 PM

update on this, found out he had them powder coated. This also happened to another fella with volks. His words

"make sure you know their history and if they've ever been powdercoated in the past, or weird stuff like this can happen. That's a rays wheel BTW, not some knockoff. he cracked another one a couple weeks later.

the thing is, aluminum is usually aged at temperatures below the temps that powdercoat cures, which overages them and weakens the structure.

i was going to powdercoat my wheels at some point, but not after reading some of the engineering forums regarding baking aluminum wheels at those temperatures. it's not a gamble i would take.

Anyone else experience this? and should i just change thread title to dont powdercoat wheels in general? I would hate to throw SSR's name in the mud for no reason?

smack · 09-13-2011, 05:19 PM

That is crazy! I have never seen anything like that. I hope he can settle this somehow with the manufacturer.

Francis M. · 09-13-2011, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee212

update on this, found out he had them powder coated. This also happened to another fella with volks. His words

"make sure you know their history and if they've ever been powdercoated in the past, or weird stuff like this can happen. That's a rays wheel BTW, not some knockoff. he cracked another one a couple weeks later.

the thing is, aluminum is usually aged at temperatures below the temps that powdercoat cures, which overages them and weakens the structure.

i was going to powdercoat my wheels at some point, but not after reading some of the engineering forums regarding baking aluminum wheels at those temperatures. it's not a gamble i would take.

Anyone else experience this? and should i just change thread title to dont powdercoat wheels in general? I would hate to throw SSR's name in the mud for no reason?

Good to know about effects of powder coating.

BBS · 09-13-2011, 05:38 PM

Condolences to your buddy but i doubt ssr will compensate for any damages.

ragingclue · 09-13-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee212

stuff

Damn man, I didn't know that. Good to learn stuff like this though.

Sucks for the guy in the NSX.

freshwhite335 · 09-13-2011, 08:25 PM

Sucks that that happened. Did he have track day insurance coverage?

Tee212 · 09-13-2011, 08:31 PM

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Sucks that that happened. Did he have track day insurance coverage?

Not sure? a friend of his let him borrow a set of rears and he still had balls to finish the rest of the day tracking with the same front (SSR's)

xerox445 · 09-13-2011, 08:31 PM

He hit Vtec too hard.

3002 tii · 09-13-2011, 08:37 PM

That's surprising because SSR relaunched last year or so, new management and supposedly focused on higher production standards (whereas in the past they were known for being quite soft).

Edit: saw the update, OP I've read the same which is why I don't plan on getting my RE-30's powdercoated. I'll just have the curb rash fixed the old fashioned way.

Tee212 · 09-13-2011, 08:46 PM

I know right? I was goona powder coat my valve cover lavender well NOT ANYMORE!!! and have it crack on me going to work. In fact powder coating means nothing to me now, back to rattle cans.

san~man · 09-13-2011, 09:24 PM

That sucks, but I have to admit I chuckled when the wheel/rim rolled past him near the wall.

MediaArtist · 09-13-2011, 09:44 PM

I never knew that powder coating weakened aluminum wheels to that degree. Thanks for the info.

adrian1480 · 09-13-2011, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lpphreakx06

Passed that m3 like a boss!

Shame about all the collateral damage. Very depressing. Do they warranty against this kind of damage? I assume even if not, a lawsuit will find in the car owner's favor.

Pass along our condolences.

ianbiz · 09-14-2011, 12:39 AM

wow! it could have ended a lot worse though...

blue2fire · 09-14-2011, 12:50 AM

What a melodic noise.

Cracked NSX Panels are not cheap, hope this firm helps him out a bit.

xerox445 · 09-14-2011, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MediaArtist

I never knew that powder coating weakened aluminum wheels to that degree. Thanks for the info.

Seriously? Is this like, I will post this to be funny?

Encino Man.

JoosyJoos · 09-14-2011, 09:52 AM

Not all that rare really. SSR's aren't that strong of rims in the first place. My friend bent 3 of his 4 on his e36 track car over the years. Its really not the rare to see rims fail out on the track if they aren't forged. Those gator strips aren't kind.

1BMW4fun · 09-14-2011, 07:37 PM

It all depends on how the powder coater does it. Not all power coating will weaken the wheels. For example, all of HREs standard finish are mostly powder coated, though they have figured out a way to do it with out putting their forged wheels back to the tempered temperature range that would weaken the forging properly. Most likley the powder coater overbaked the wheels.

infinitekidM2C · 09-14-2011, 07:46 PM

Yikes what with powdercoating..he's got a tough hill to climb against SSR...good luck.

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SoCal BimMn' Lieutenant Colonel 90 Rep 1,833 Posts Drives: LCI AW F80 ///M3 Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: SoSoCal iTrader: (33)	Wow I'd be beyond pissed quite honestly. And yeah it coulda been worst good thing it didn't happen at a straight away at higher speeds. Hopefully SSR does make it right. Just not cool.
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Tee212 Banned 81 Rep 4,541 Posts Drives: yes Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Riverside iTrader: (9) Garage List 2010 335 [8.00]	update on this, found out he had them powder coated. This also happened to another fella with volks. His words "make sure you know their history and if they've ever been powdercoated in the past, or weird stuff like this can happen. That's a rays wheel BTW, not some knockoff. he cracked another one a couple weeks later. the thing is, aluminum is usually aged at temperatures below the temps that powdercoat cures, which overages them and weakens the structure. i was going to powdercoat my wheels at some point, but not after reading some of the engineering forums regarding baking aluminum wheels at those temperatures. it's not a gamble i would take. Anyone else experience this? and should i just change thread title to dont powdercoat wheels in general? I would hate to throw SSR's name in the mud for no reason? Attached Images
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smack Lieutenant Colonel 34 Rep 1,569 Posts Drives: BMW's/Flex Polishers Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Spangdahlem Germany iTrader: (0)	That is crazy! I have never seen anything like that. I hope he can settle this somehow with the manufacturer.
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freshwhite335 Colonel 146 Rep 2,882 Posts Drives: 991/RR Sport AB Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: 904 FL iTrader: (6) Garage List 2011 BMW 135i [0.00]	Sucks that that happened. Did he have track day insurance coverage? __________________ 2014 Range Rover Sport Autobiography 2012.5 991 C2S 1978 Corvette
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JoosyJoos Major 113 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: 2011 335d Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	Not all that rare really. SSR's aren't that strong of rims in the first place. My friend bent 3 of his 4 on his e36 track car over the years. Its really not the rare to see rims fail out on the track if they aren't forged. Those gator strips aren't kind. __________________ 1997 M3 Coupe - BMWCCA I-Prepared #22 2006 M Roadster - 23,000 miles and slowly counting
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1BMW4fun Second Lieutenant 37 Rep 252 Posts Drives: 12 X3 2.8, 11 550 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: CA iTrader: (0)	It all depends on how the powder coater does it. Not all power coating will weaken the wheels. For example, all of HREs standard finish are mostly powder coated, though they have figured out a way to do it with out putting their forged wheels back to the tempered temperature range that would weaken the forging properly. Most likley the powder coater overbaked the wheels.
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