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If you study the Dyno Database, you will notice inconsistency in results of every tuner's tunes when tested on different dynos even when the dyno is of the same type (i.e., dynojet).
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I have no issue with different dynos yielding different results. The issue to me is that the product is being marketed with these inconsistencies. How do we know that it's just a dyno issue when the manufacturer of this setup doesn't have any data with his products all being done on the same machine? And not to mention the differences in the bolt ons that are being used? To me it seems smartest to install the setup on a bone stock 6MT and DCT cars on the same machine and shop and show what his setup does. Just my opinion I guess. Maybe no one else cares about this.
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Loving this system in my M3.
Took it to a track day and pretty much drove it as hard as I possibly good and didn't get any errors or anything. Car pulls extremely strong and can definitely notice it on the "butt dyno" Day to day street driving is nice also, I'm a pretty aggressive driver so I like the extra little pep this system provides Also, I dunno if it's my imagination or what but I feel I got much better gas mileage when driving down to LA a couple months ago....went way further than I usually do without having to fill up and I was going pretty fast the whole way down. The other little perks of the procede are super cool too, like how it shows you when meth is being sprayed and the shift light. |
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We did make a bit over 400whp actual (uncorrected) on another test car in LA on the dyno at EAS. And all that car had was a cat-back and high flow cats. Stock intake, stock filter, no pulley, etc,. STD corrected was 397whp or thereabouts. So it really just depends on what dyno you use an how it reads compared to others. I'm quite sure the first car (with a lower nominal power number) pulls harder than the car with the higher nominal reading. It would be nice to test them on the same dyno but the owners (and their cars) live 400 miles apart Shiv |
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The one thing that is consistant is proven gains over stock. This is the initial release and will only get better over time (free firmware/map updates). The Procede/Meth combo is hugely successful and documented in the 335i forums.
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Love that, even with DCT shift lights!
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I understand your concerns man. I was skeptical at first but after just driving the car after the install is what sold it for me. I also wanted the no BS answers but the whole tuning thing seems to be more of an art than a science just because of all the variables. One thing I can say for certain is that you will no BS notice the difference in power and overall performance of the car. Shiv's tuning abilities and the methanol injection product make a world of difference and have made me and others believers. Take care and good luck.
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So on an ESS set up we are going to have to run the meth lines all the way down to the filter in the front bumper?
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