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I am *really* keen to find out how much each of the manis weigh, although I'm sure that's a subject for a new thread. |
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05-02-2013, 01:53 PM | #25 | |
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Then again, you bought the heaviest M3 ever produced..... You can argue both ways on whether you should care more or care less about the cars weight. Shedding weight on a luxury car sucks. Because you have to give up a commodity most of the time. This is a luxury car, and I did not buy it solely for a weekend warrior. It is the ultimate in daily driving comfort and weekend excitement, and adding any forced induction will surely give this heavy/torqueless car an 'exotic' feel. All these supercharger debates come down to personal preference. You have to be comfortable with everything before you throw down the green. I was 100% comfortable with my due diligence into the VF kit, and it wasn't total wallet destruction either. Godspeed. |
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05-02-2013, 01:58 PM | #26 | |
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05-02-2013, 02:55 PM | #28 |
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My 2 cents would be that it is easier to sell a car with an ESS kit because they have been on the E9X M scene for so much longer than VF, with that people aren't too familiar and might not trust the brand. Personally, I believe all SC brands for our cars are wicked, yes there have been problems with a couple but you cannot blame that on the company.
It's just like when my engine blew, doesn't mean the whole of BMW brand turned to sh*t, just the fact that the engine was not up to par. |
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05-02-2013, 08:11 PM | #31 | |
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Some enthusiasts contacted us about selling their VF540 kits. One mentioned he was would be moving into a GTR for more traction. Another was selling his VF540 kit and upgrading with a used VF620 kit (from an insurance total loss part out). 2 other VF owners were parting out their builds due to lease end. 2 kits were advertized twice.
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To clarify the weight differences: the non-intercooled VF manifold and bracket only weighs 4.2 lbs (four point two) more than the ESS equivalent components. Last edited by VF-Engineering; 05-02-2013 at 10:14 PM.. |
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Robert, you update your customers to the 240E software before flashing in the supercharger tune file?
Are stored engine codes different from CELs? More like a pending code? Curious to know what to expect. |
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05-03-2013, 11:52 AM | #33 |
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Yes, we update all our customers ecu’s with the factory 240E software before the 240E supercharger software.
Engine codes are different from CELs. Certain engine codes will cause a CEL to appear and some engine codes will cause a CEL to appear after a specific number of occurrences. Pending codes are different and refer to an occurrence of a “function plausibility error” before a code is stored. |
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05-03-2013, 04:51 PM | #35 | |
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In regards to eas swapping their kit people should know there are always incentives for shops to promote certain products. secondly eas and ess have alot more in common then people are aware off.
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I already got you beat with my VF540 drive from SoCal back home to central Texas but you also went to Las Vegas
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Glad you are happy with your kit.
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I stand corrected. Friends of mine own those cars so daily feedback is common. I agree with you Tom. A simple test drive is meaningless, but considering my circumstances I have good exposure to lots of ess products and other types of goodies threw out BMW group and Bimmersport. I hold alot of respect of ess for putting out 709 whp beasts. .
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05-03-2013, 06:18 PM | #40 | |
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The VF kit does not weigh 50 lbs more than the ESS kit as EAS stated. It weighs 4 lbs more. Lets allow the enthusiasts to do the talking, and lets all enjoy our cars together. |
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I chose not to upgrade because VF production software was very buggy, even in "final" form. We were constantly dealing with customer complains from constant limp modes, CELs, and numerous codes - sometimes 3 pages long in reports. I am an enthusiast, and our opinion counts also. I have been trying my best to stay civil on this matter, but we certainly have enough history to fully explain our side if provoked. Food for thought. Have a great weekend.
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Not trying to start a debate but...if your company knew about 3 pages of bugs with the software not in "final" form why would you choose it? Also ESS kits were around before VF right? Why then would EAS just pick the kit it thought was better in its opinion from the beginning? Like I said just asking questions. Im new here was going to go SC'd now Im backing out completely because of post like this. Im new to the M3 world and finding out really quick the Evo world offered alot more bang for the buck. No disrespect.
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Now it's getting good. Dek25, early on, it seemed that VF and EAS were co-developing the SC kit. Just an observation. No inside knowledge or anything.
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