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What people do not realize is that as well as our kits have performed over the years they are actually de-tuned a bit from what they can be because we take engine safety very seriously and we always assume worst case scenario. We could easily make more power if we were willing to sacrafice safety margin. |
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You say you would never tune cars that are dependent on meth and insinuate that we do ( this is not the case) .. But you would tune a car to depend on 94 + octane only? Wasn't the 625 car that blew up dependent on such an octane level? Where was the safety margin? Our level 3 kit is sold with methanol injection as a safety margin. We both know how this car's ECU works, so can you tell me that if the meth ran out the ECU would not re calibrate it's mapping to adjust for it's conditions? Requiring 93+ octane only versus us requiring pump gas plus meth is equivalent in my eyes and in fact opens up the doors to those without access to 93 + octane. In other words, Active does take engine longevity safely just as much as anyone else - our method is just different trying to provide more accessibility. Plain and simple if you don't want to run meth that's understandable. We have other options available for those do not want to deal with extra hassle of filling a tank every couple weeks. Our level 1 and 2 do not require any meth. Last edited by SflBimmer8484; 05-01-2013 at 12:49 PM.. |
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I think it's pretty common knowledge that you do not run 89-91 octane on a supercharged car that is tuned for a min of 93+ octane. The reason we have fuel requirements listed is that we know how much safety margin we have to work with and those margins require a min level of fuel quality. The discussion was about the cooling system not running lower than required fuel quality. If someone was to use our product outside of our guidelines then there is no way for us to predict what may or may not happen or control the safety of it. Fuel quality is a required guideline. |
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05-01-2013, 01:04 PM | #48 | |
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I feel the same way about running afr's in the upper 13's at redline. Unlike the speculation about exactly what psi this engine can hold running lean is a real issue that should be corrected before any issues arise. |
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05-01-2013, 01:10 PM | #49 |
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Based on your history I don't think your opinions hold much water my friend. let me know when you take all of the world records we hold on the E9X M3 and sell over 600 kits worldwide, then you can have an opinion
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05-01-2013, 01:13 PM | #50 |
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Yeah with 32 years and thousands of kits on the road right now.. I believe our engineers and tuners opinions should hold a little water.
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I thought BigLare's old car was a 650 kit, not a 625 kit. Those require 93 octane. The owner admitted to running it with 89.
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His sig.. 1M ESS Stage 1+ Tune | IND Grills - Sides | Eisenmann Race | HRE P43S | KW V3 | SOLD-M3 ESS VT2-625 | IND/Challenge CF V-Weave Roof - LipSpoiler – BootLid – Diffuser - Mirrors - Brembo BBK Fiji-Green | HRE P44SC | MA Carbon – CF MatteSilver Trim | Akra GT4 Mid-Pipe - Eisenmann Inconel | 3.62Diff | TopStitch Custom Interior | KW Clubsport | RD Sport Sways --------------------------------------- I think I explained the misunderstanding of our use of meth well enough. Pm me if you have any questions. |
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As to the OPs question. I have had my kit for a few months now and I daily drive my car. There are very few days that the car has sit in the garage without me driving it. I love the kit and I think the characteristics of the motor are stocklike when driving around town, but the car is another beast entirely when you realllly get on it.
I have no regrets on boosting the car and am about to order the catless sections for my Active x-pipe to get even more power. Yes that's right, I am an ESS and Active customer
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Yes our kits are dependent on the owner to use the fuel we recommend when they pull up to a gas station. I think this is a much safer route than depending on a small pump and all the components in a meth kit to function 100%.
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I already explained if meth stops running the car will still run 12 afr and no problems will arise. |
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