Short Shifters

kiloil · 06-13-2010, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

Nope. There have been several threads about this noise, including one by mod Rldzhao. The noise bothered him so much he had to sell the shifter. I've also heard my friends car and it has the same noise. It's definitely not the install, and 100% the kit.

You're right I read about that and many others have that same problem. This would have been the only mod on my car but the negative feedback prevented me from doing it.

JH M3 · 06-13-2010, 10:20 PM

I'm getting my UUC SSK installed tomorrow. I didn't choose Rogue partly because of the noise and partly because it is actually taller than the stock shifter which is not what I was looking for. UUC is height adjustable. Will post my review when I get a chance.

sparkyg · 06-14-2010, 07:39 AM

I have some additional noise during hard shifts 1-2 and 2-3 but it is not grinding, just noise being transmitted up the shifter from the tranny

I have gotten used to it and it is quieter now than before

To be honest I hardly notice it.

alevy · 06-14-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nuespeedgti

<--- Wrong coast, the northeast sucks like that.

Rogue Engineering is IN the north east in NJ.. they can install it for you, just call them.

audioMeth · 06-14-2010, 02:04 PM

4 hour drive is not exactly close.

tom @ eas · 06-14-2010, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nuespeedgti

4 hour drive is not exactly close.

But it is 4 hours of bonding time with your new SSK.

Ca$hOnly · 06-14-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sparkyg

I have some additional noise during hard shifts 1-2 and 2-3 but it is not grinding, just noise being transmitted up the shifter from the tranny

I have gotten used to it and it is quieter now than before

To be honest I hardly notice it.

I agree with you that it quiets down with time, however I'm not sure if that's because the shifter is getting quieter, or if we're just getting used to the noise.

Nate@IND · 06-14-2010, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ca$hOnly

I agree with you that it quiets down with time, however I'm not sure if that's because the shifter is getting quieter, or if we're just getting used to the noise.

My bad on the install question. All the M's that I have driven have had the SSK installed for 5k-10k miles so maybe that's why I have never heard any noise.

DevJ · 06-14-2010, 05:19 PM

Any vendors want to give me a deal on a RE SSK if I send them my UUC one that's been on for a few months and no more than 5k miles?

J08M3 · 06-14-2010, 05:54 PM

I've had the RE SSK for a year now.... probably about 7k miles. It's ok, if the car came this way from the factory I'd be happy... .but I'd never spend the money again to change it. There's nothing special and you can't shift any faster, especially the 1->2 shift which sucks in this car and you have to take your time with it or it grinds. The shifts feel slightly more accurate as there is a little less play in the shifter due to the use of a hard polyurethane rather than rubber. That also helps transmit the added noise which is barely noticeable in my opinion and even though you can hear it if you listen close it's not annoying and just one of the many noises this car makes.

sciaenops · 06-14-2010, 06:01 PM

Here's good info from experience, thank you.

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Originally Posted by J08M3

I've had the RE SSK for a year now.... probably about 7k miles. It's ok, if the car came this way from the factory I'd be happy... .but I'd never spend the money again to change it. There's nothing special and you can't shift any faster, especially the 1->2 shift which sucks in this car and you have to take your time with it or it grinds. The shifts feel slightly more accurate as there is a little less play in the shifter due to the use of a hard polyurethane rather than rubber. That also helps transmit the added noise which is barely noticeable in my opinion and even though you can hear it if you listen close it's not annoying and just one of the many noises this car makes.

sparkyg · 06-14-2010, 06:53 PM

The 1-2 in our cars is always tight due to some tranny "spin up" that holds back a fast shift but the 2-3 is way better now than before and the car just surges when going onto 3rd hard. It is fantastic

These are my feelings anyhow of my setup

V8MAN · 06-14-2010, 08:12 PM

I have had my UUC SSK for over a year now and frankly, would not do it again. I've spent around $500 between the SSK and the install, having the choice and knowing what I know now I would rather spend that money towards a CF rear diffuser or even the OEM splitters instead.
If anything the UUC SSK has been kind of a PITAss, the lug nut the tightens the shifter (so you can move it up and down) kept on coming loose and I would have to re-tighten the darn thing every so often, I finally got fed up and used some threadlocker to keep it from getting loose, looks like that worked but I find it pretty annoying that I had to resort to something like that.

My whole experience has not been a very good one with this anyway, from the very beginning. The dude that installed the SSK took like 1/2 a day to install it (he did not know what the F*k he was doing), he convinced me to replace my shift knob with the BMW weighted knob and then proceeded to botch the crap out of the knob, so I had to end up buying another M shifter and boot, and then I started to experience the issue with the shifter itself a few weeks after the install. This whole thing has cost me hundreds of dollars which I would not mind spending if the level of enjoyment was there, but for me the SSK experience has not made things that much better.

So I tried it once, got to experience what an aftermarket SSK is about, and will never do it again.

Maybe I have been unlucky with my setup, but I figure I would share my experience. Good luck!

audioMeth · 06-14-2010, 09:01 PM

v8man you should try some loctite on that nut, if they can keep the fasteners on my bike i am positive they will keep that nut on your shifter tight

JH M3 · 06-14-2010, 10:47 PM

Just had my UUC SSK installed today at Sonic MS. Luckily these guys know what they are doing, so no issues with the install. Overall I am very happy with this mod. The shifts feel significantly shorter. It is definitely notchier but not in a bad way and there is a more positive feel as it locks into gear. Shifts also require more effort but maybe it will become easier over time as it breaks in. I guess it all depends on personal preference on whether it is worth it or not. I'm coming from a Audi B7 S4 with a SSK that was pretty low with extremely short throws. Shifting the M3 felt like I was moving stick a mile which is why a SSK was worth the money to me.

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JH M3 Second Lieutenant 117 Rep 275 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 M3 ZCP Azurite Black Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	I'm getting my UUC SSK installed tomorrow. I didn't choose Rogue partly because of the noise and partly because it is actually taller than the stock shifter which is not what I was looking for. UUC is height adjustable. Will post my review when I get a chance.
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sparkyg Brigadier General 142 Rep 3,523 Posts Drives: A6 Allroad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oil Country iTrader: (5)	I have some additional noise during hard shifts 1-2 and 2-3 but it is not grinding, just noise being transmitted up the shifter from the tranny I have gotten used to it and it is quieter now than before To be honest I hardly notice it.
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06-14-2010, 02:04 PM	#27
audioMeth BTC maxi 222 Rep 1,124 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rehoboth, MA iTrader: (8)	4 hour drive is not exactly close.
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DevJ Colonel 154 Rep 2,736 Posts Drives: R8 V10+/YMB M4 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tulsa, OK iTrader: (1)	Any vendors want to give me a deal on a RE SSK if I send them my UUC one that's been on for a few months and no more than 5k miles? __________________ ‘23 RRS First Edition '22 X7 M50i '18 R8 V10+ http://www.bimmerpost.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=133578&d=1204654487[/IMG]
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J08M3 Major General 285 Rep 6,007 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 COUPE Join Date: May 2008 Location: NEW YORK iTrader: (8)	I've had the RE SSK for a year now.... probably about 7k miles. It's ok, if the car came this way from the factory I'd be happy... .but I'd never spend the money again to change it. There's nothing special and you can't shift any faster, especially the 1->2 shift which sucks in this car and you have to take your time with it or it grinds. The shifts feel slightly more accurate as there is a little less play in the shifter due to the use of a hard polyurethane rather than rubber. That also helps transmit the added noise which is barely noticeable in my opinion and even though you can hear it if you listen close it's not annoying and just one of the many noises this car makes. __________________
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sparkyg Brigadier General 142 Rep 3,523 Posts Drives: A6 Allroad Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oil Country iTrader: (5)	The 1-2 in our cars is always tight due to some tranny "spin up" that holds back a fast shift but the 2-3 is way better now than before and the car just surges when going onto 3rd hard. It is fantastic These are my feelings anyhow of my setup
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06-14-2010, 08:12 PM	#35
V8MAN Captain 498 Rep 900 Posts Drives: '23 M3CxD IOMG Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: RVA iTrader: (2)	Not really I have had my UUC SSK for over a year now and frankly, would not do it again. I've spent around $500 between the SSK and the install, having the choice and knowing what I know now I would rather spend that money towards a CF rear diffuser or even the OEM splitters instead. If anything the UUC SSK has been kind of a PITAss, the lug nut the tightens the shifter (so you can move it up and down) kept on coming loose and I would have to re-tighten the darn thing every so often, I finally got fed up and used some threadlocker to keep it from getting loose, looks like that worked but I find it pretty annoying that I had to resort to something like that. My whole experience has not been a very good one with this anyway, from the very beginning. The dude that installed the SSK took like 1/2 a day to install it (he did not know what the F*k he was doing), he convinced me to replace my shift knob with the BMW weighted knob and then proceeded to botch the crap out of the knob, so I had to end up buying another M shifter and boot, and then I started to experience the issue with the shifter itself a few weeks after the install. This whole thing has cost me hundreds of dollars which I would not mind spending if the level of enjoyment was there, but for me the SSK experience has not made things that much better. So I tried it once, got to experience what an aftermarket SSK is about, and will never do it again. Maybe I have been unlucky with my setup, but I figure I would share my experience. Good luck!
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audioMeth BTC maxi 222 Rep 1,124 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Rehoboth, MA iTrader: (8)	v8man you should try some loctite on that nut, if they can keep the fasteners on my bike i am positive they will keep that nut on your shifter tight
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06-14-2010, 10:47 PM	#37
JH M3 Second Lieutenant 117 Rep 275 Posts Drives: 2017 F80 M3 ZCP Azurite Black Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Rhode Island iTrader: (0)	Just had my UUC SSK installed today at Sonic MS. Luckily these guys know what they are doing, so no issues with the install. Overall I am very happy with this mod. The shifts feel significantly shorter. It is definitely notchier but not in a bad way and there is a more positive feel as it locks into gear. Shifts also require more effort but maybe it will become easier over time as it breaks in. I guess it all depends on personal preference on whether it is worth it or not. I'm coming from a Audi B7 S4 with a SSK that was pretty low with extremely short throws. Shifting the M3 felt like I was moving stick a mile which is why a SSK was worth the money to me.
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