Additional '09 E90 changes (besides tailights and Space Grey)???? From AutoBlog.com

[rmmcdaniel]

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/20/s...elift-already/

"The revisions, of course, will be minor, but spy shots like the one above suggest that, in addition to the new tail lights being fitted to the regular four-door 3-Series, the M3 Sedan is expected to get some new LEDs up front. Other minor changes will be made to the rear, including a modified rear bumper and diffuser, along with a few updates to the interior. We won't be complaining, just as long as it's as fast as the existing model."

These comments about new LEDs up front and a modified rear bumper and diffuser make me nervous about sticking with the '08 as it seems a retrofit might be much more work than just replacing the taillight assemblies and trunk lid.

Thoughts? How credible is AutoBlog on this stuff? Note they credit this forum as the source...

[Tallest]

i follow bimmerfile.com which I think is most reliable but autoblog probably quotes them a lot? Anyway, I would say no point waiting for 08 car if you can get the facelift just half year later. Better for resale value as 3 years from now you can have the pre and after facelifted cars and if my experience is anything the facelifted models are always in more demand.

[mkoesel]

Autoblog is just making statements based on the same info you or I have. As you say - they got the pics from this very forum. The difference is that they know less about the M3 than you or I since they obviously have to spread their knowledge over all cars.

I'm not sure I can see the headlight change they seem to think will happen, though I am by no means the expert. But, I ask myself why BMW would change the headlights on the M3 sedan and not the coupe when their headlights are identical. Furthermore I ask myself why they would change the headlights at all since this piece is not shared with the E90 3 series and therefore has no basis whatsoever for an upgrade. It would be utterly arbitrary.

Regarding the diffuser, I suppose it could happen with respect to any required changes in the rear to support commonality with the changes to the rear of the E90 3 series. But again, this should be minor.

I have to reiterate two points I've made in earlier threads:
- I don't think it makes sense to wait for such things.
- I don't understand how you guys get so polarized about such minutae.

We still don't know about any interior changes improvements. Maybe those will be worth waiting for (shrug).

[consolidated]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Autoblog is just making statements based on the same info you or I have. As you say - they got the pics from this very forum. The difference is that they know less about the M3 than you or I since they obviously have to spread their knowledge over all cars.

I'm not sure I can see the headlight change they seem to think will happen, though I am by no means the expert. But, I ask myself why BMW would change the headlights on the M3 sedan and not the coupe when their headlights are identical. Furthermore I ask myself why they would change the headlights at all since this piece is not shared with the E90 3 series and therefore has no basis whatsoever for an upgrade. It would be utterly arbitrary.

Regarding the diffuser, I suppose it could happen with respect to any required changes in the rear to support commonality with the changes to the rear of the E90 3 series. But again, this should be minor.

I have to reiterate two points I've made in earlier threads:
- I don't think it makes sense to wait for such things.
- I don't understand how you guys get so polarized about such minutae.

We still don't know about any interior changes improvements. Maybe those will be worth waiting for (shrug).

Nice post. Unless they raise redline to 9000rpm and find 30 more ponies it's full steam ahead.

[Epacy]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

I'm not sure I can see the headlight change they seem to think will happen, though I am by no means the expert. But, I ask myself why BMW would change the headlights on the M3 sedan and not the coupe when their headlights are identical. Furthermore I ask myself why they would change the headlights at all since this piece is not shared with the E90 3 series and therefore has no basis whatsoever for an upgrade. It would be utterly arbitrary.

So what are all the answers to the questions you pose yourself?

[Davo2003]

I don't have the sedan and haven't checked the following. But, if the current M3 sedan does not use the halos as DRL's like the coupe, my guess is that is what they are referring to and will most likely make the change across the 3 series sedan line. Hope that makes sense, someone correct me if I am wrong on the DRL/Halo difference.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Epacy

So what are all the answers to the questions you pose yourself?

Sorry, E, they're secret. You'll have to wait for a future autoblog post to reveal them.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Davo2003

I don't have the sedan and haven't checked the following. But, if the current M3 sedan does not use the halos as DRL's like the coupe...

I'd be shocked if they currently differed, but I don't know.

[southlight]

Originally Posted by Davo2003

I don't have the sedan and haven't checked the following. But, if the current M3 sedan does not use the halos as DRL's like the coupe, my guess is that is what they are referring to and will most likely make the change across the 3 series sedan line. Hope that makes sense, someone correct me if I am wrong on the DRL/Halo difference.

Well, the M3 sedan's front end is identical to the M3 coupe's. So there's nothing they have to fix there.


Best regards, south

[Manny212]

I have the halos as DRL on my sedan...I highly doubt BMW would add LEDS up front like Audi offers. Unless they got rid of the halos or something but that isn't going to happen