challenge sport x pipe and gintani

Nicname · 06-24-2012, 03:42 PM

Coming closer to my decision and just want to make sure I have everything right after doing my research.
I've decided to go with the challenge sport x pipe since its HFC and I heard that HFC has a leaner gas smell and I can pass emissions. I've also heard that HFC provides great gains and the sport version is more tamed in sound. I already have a gintani sport axle back and I've read I can expect around a 25% increase in sound which I believe i can live with.
My questions are:
what are the main differences between test pipes and a HFC x pipe???
installing this x pipe will only void my x pipe warranty right? worst comes to worse, i could always just put the orignal x pipes before taking my car in if anything happens?
HFC will pass emissions, has less of a smell, and give great gains?
Will a ESS tune affect anything under warranty?
Drone will not increase but rather the tone/aggressiveness of my exhaust sound?

I know topics have been made before and I've done some homework. I just want to make sure i have everything straight.

Lagunae92 · 06-24-2012, 05:14 PM

I just installed the Challenge Sport pipe on Thursday last week (vids/wrote-up coming). I am extremely pleased with it. I have a Tubi Style Race exhaust and the pipe has definitely cut down the drone and allowed the exotic sounding tone of the Tubi to sharpen and rise in pitch. It sounds incredible now!!!

I also just got the CEL this morning, and will need a tune. In California, I do not believe emissions testing will be good with this set-up, but it is fairly simple to change back to stock because it is a straight bolt on pipe.

rjd598 · 06-24-2012, 05:19 PM

you would have to go with the street xpipe to have no cel

Nicname · 06-24-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by rjd598

you would have to go with the street xpipe to have no cel

I'm ok with a CEL because I would get this with a tune. My issue is which sounds more tamed and has less smell/drone between the street and sport

Nicname · 06-24-2012, 09:45 PM

Could anyone explain to me the difference between test pipes and the hfc x pipe in terms of:
Emissions
Sound
Drone
Power
Smell

THE TECH · 06-24-2012, 10:13 PM

You will still get plenty of smell with the high flows.

Nicname · 06-24-2012, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

You will still get plenty of smell with the high flows.

And what about test pipes?

THE TECH · 06-24-2012, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicname

And what about test pipes?

With the secondary cats in place you mean?

aus · 06-25-2012, 04:17 AM

Turner test pipes essentially cut out the primary cats, so you'll pretty much get what you have now except the stock X-pipe has a lot of kinks in it. The secondary cats are also 200cpi.
Don't know what the rules are in NJ, but in Cali, you have to pass a visual inspection, along with the sniffer.

Nicname · 06-25-2012, 05:47 AM

[QUOTE=THE TECH]

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Originally Posted by Nicname

And what about test pipes?

Yup with the secondary's in place.

And to aus, thats something I'd have to look into. Would either pass visually

Nicname · 06-25-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagunae92

I just installed the Challenge Sport pipe on Thursday last week (vids/wrote-up coming). I am extremely pleased with it. I have a Tubi Style Race exhaust and the pipe has definitely cut down the drone and allowed the exotic sounding tone of the Tubi to sharpen and rise in pitch. It sounds incredible now!!!

I also just got the CEL this morning, and will need a tune. In California, I do not believe emissions testing will be good with this set-up, but it is fairly simple to change back to stock because it is a straight bolt on pipe.

Looking forward to it!

THE TECH · 06-25-2012, 08:04 PM

[QUOTE=Nicname;12215640]

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Yup with the secondary's in place.

And to aus, thats something I'd have to look into. Would either pass visually

Yeah, you're still gonna get the smell.

aus · 06-26-2012, 04:09 AM

[QUOTE=Nicname;12215640]

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Yup with the secondary's in place.

And to aus, thats something I'd have to look into. Would either pass visually

It won't pass in Cali since the stock cats are cut off.
The smell with my 100cpi cats is noticeable. I'm considering getting something with 200cpi cats, like the Challenge pipes.

.

Nicname · 06-26-2012, 04:31 AM

[QUOTE=aus]

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Originally Posted by Nicname

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Yup with the secondary's in place.

And to aus, thats something I'd have to look into. Would either pass visually

It won't pass in Cali since the stock cats are cut off.
The smell with my 100cpi cats is noticeable. I'm considering getting something with 200cpi cats, like the Challenge pipes.

.

Would the best challenge pipes be the sport or street version for my needs? Remember I'd be doing a tune also. I understand the street doesn't give a cel cause it doesn't take out the primary cats but then I won't have the same power gains?

THE TECH · 06-26-2012, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicname

Would the best challenge pipes be the sport or street version for my needs? Remember I'd be doing a tune also. I understand the street doesn't give a cel cause it doesn't take out the primary cats but then I won't have the same power gains?

The power gains are from deleting the primary cats. You have to compromise somewhere.

Nicname · 06-26-2012, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicname

Would the best challenge pipes be the sport or street version for my needs? Remember I'd be doing a tune also. I understand the street doesn't give a cel cause it doesn't take out the primary cats but then I won't have the same power gains?

The power gains are from deleting the primary cats. You have to compromise somewhere.

Thanks a lot for all the info The Tech

I'll be on the hunt now for a used sport xpipe

Lagunae92 · 06-26-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicname

Thanks a lot for all the info The Tech

I'll be on the hunt now for a used sport xpipe

Also, you will have to cut the existing pipes for the street version, so swapping it out is not quite as simple I would think.

Nicname · 06-26-2012, 12:54 PM

Ahh I didn't know that. So that just helps me justify the sport even more since it'll be easy to take off or sell in case of anything

Lagunae92 · 06-29-2012, 01:57 PM

That was a major factor in my decision as well.

06-24-2012, 03:42 PM	#1
Nicname Lieutenant Colonel 351 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	challenge sport x pipe and gintani Coming closer to my decision and just want to make sure I have everything right after doing my research. I've decided to go with the challenge sport x pipe since its HFC and I heard that HFC has a leaner gas smell and I can pass emissions. I've also heard that HFC provides great gains and the sport version is more tamed in sound. I already have a gintani sport axle back and I've read I can expect around a 25% increase in sound which I believe i can live with. My questions are: what are the main differences between test pipes and a HFC x pipe??? installing this x pipe will only void my x pipe warranty right? worst comes to worse, i could always just put the orignal x pipes before taking my car in if anything happens? HFC will pass emissions, has less of a smell, and give great gains? Will a ESS tune affect anything under warranty? Drone will not increase but rather the tone/aggressiveness of my exhaust sound? I know topics have been made before and I've done some homework. I just want to make sure i have everything straight. __________________ Current: ///M2C G01 X3 xDrive30i Past: ///M2 997.1 Turbo ///M3 E92
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Lagunae92 Captain 74 Rep 753 Posts Drives: BMW e92 M3 Laguna Seca Blue Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Long Beach iTrader: (0)	I just installed the Challenge Sport pipe on Thursday last week (vids/wrote-up coming). I am extremely pleased with it. I have a Tubi Style Race exhaust and the pipe has definitely cut down the drone and allowed the exotic sounding tone of the Tubi to sharpen and rise in pitch. It sounds incredible now!!! I also just got the CEL this morning, and will need a tune. In California, I do not believe emissions testing will be good with this set-up, but it is fairly simple to change back to stock because it is a straight bolt on pipe. __________________ 2009 e92 M3 Individual Laguna Seca Blue\|Black Novillo\|DCT\|19"rims\|Carbon Leather\|Premium\|Tech.\|Heated Seats\|Prem. Sound\|iPod\| Mods: \|Electronic Performance Steering Wheel\|ZCP CF Spoiler\|ZCP CF Spliters\|ZCP CF Mirrors\|Edition Front Grilles\|Edition Side Grilles\|BMW Performance Brake Handle\|3D Design Pedals\| Style Rumore Exhaust\|H&R Springs\|LCI Tails\|Challenge CF Door Panels\|
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Nicname Lieutenant Colonel 351 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	Could anyone explain to me the difference between test pipes and the hfc x pipe in terms of: Emissions Sound Drone Power Smell __________________ Current: ///M2C G01 X3 xDrive30i Past: ///M2 997.1 Turbo ///M3 E92
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06-25-2012, 04:17 AM	#9
aus Major General 892 Rep 9,032 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Turner test pipes essentially cut out the primary cats, so you'll pretty much get what you have now except the stock X-pipe has a lot of kinks in it. The secondary cats are also 200cpi. Don't know what the rules are in NJ, but in Cali, you have to pass a visual inspection, along with the sniffer. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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Nicname Lieutenant Colonel 351 Rep 1,681 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (4)	Ahh I didn't know that. So that just helps me justify the sport even more since it'll be easy to take off or sell in case of anything __________________ Current: ///M2C G01 X3 xDrive30i Past: ///M2 997.1 Turbo ///M3 E92
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