Rogue Engineering spacers

GregW / Oregon · 05-04-2009, 09:29 PM

These things are so nice I hate to hide them behind wheels! Maybe I'll mount them on the outside! I got four 12mm spacers + bolts from RE today. I had considered the Macht Schnell ones, but I like the more aggressive cutout on these, the addition of a pry slot on the backside, and the fact they are US-made. Just for reference I compared them to a 10mm H&R Trak+ spacer I had left from my E46 spare. In terms of finish and weight, the RE's kick butt! I know 4 oz/wheel will make no difference, but I still appreciate fine things.

12mm RE - 9.4 oz.
10mm H&R - 12.0 oz. (by extrapolation, 12mm ~ 14 oz.)

It's raining like heck out tonight, so I'll install and post photos tomorrow.

Manny212 · 05-04-2009, 09:38 PM

they do look nice but my H&R's work the same and you can't see them.

503Alex · 05-04-2009, 09:39 PM

Looks good! The rain is crazy tonight.

GregW / Oregon · 05-04-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Manny212

they do look nice but my H&R's work the same and you can't see them.

I know, but 1/4 lb is 1/4 lb (unless it's an outside rim 1/4 lb)!

I love German products, but if we can get the same or better in a US product, so much the better for our economy and the environment (shipping from Germany)!

Manny212 · 05-04-2009, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I know, but 1/4 lb is 1/4 lb (unless it's an outside rim 1/4 lb)!

I love German products, but if we can get the same or better in a US product, so much the better for our economy and the environment (shipping from Germany)!

I know i agree with you. I love RE products and buying US made products is great(except for most of our cars). You have helped the market jump a few points

mPlasticDesign · 05-04-2009, 10:05 PM

Greg, I'm with you. I like the Rogue spacers, pulleys, SSK etc. I can't wait to hear the exhaust they have planned for our cars!

chris s · 05-04-2009, 10:06 PM

Very nice...i'm considering 15/12 for front and rear. Seems to work nicely. Post pics. Did you pay extra for the black extended lugs?

Radiation Joe · 05-04-2009, 10:15 PM

Interesting.

When did they start machining out the slots? I'm pretty sure I have a two or three year old set of Rogues with large round holes for weight reduction.

sgmsmg · 05-04-2009, 10:18 PM

Rouge must have recently revised their design because these are what the ones I have look like:

wheelman · 05-04-2009, 10:25 PM

I completely agree with Greg.
My 15 & 12mm spacers and black bolts arrived from Rogue on Friday and were installed Saturday. I couldn't be happier with them.

GT3 Tim · 05-05-2009, 10:20 AM

RE makes some quality prodructs! Ben and the guys at RE are true enthusiasts and don't skimp on quality.

Jersey Girl · 05-05-2009, 10:45 AM

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Rouge must have recently revised their design because these are what the ones I have look like:

Yep, I had some put on my car (15mm f, 12mm r) and Ben had just brought them from the machine shop. In fact I was waiting at their shop for him to get back so they could go on.

mmmmmm, spacers fresh from the oven

IRMthree · 05-07-2009, 02:34 AM

OP: did you put them on?

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by IRMthree

OP: did you put them on?

Yep, pics to come TODAY. Nothing radical, but a nice improvement.

chris s · 05-07-2009, 08:22 AM

Pics or ban!

Straz M3 · 05-07-2009, 09:26 AM

The RE 15/12 Combo is how the car should have came from the factory as far as stance. Someone told me the other night that my car looked like a pitbull waiting to attack. Hahaha

Boooost · 05-07-2009, 09:32 AM

15/12 combo is the best setup. I will have to get a set of RE.

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Straz M3

The RE 15/12 Combo is how the car should have came from the factory as far as stance. Someone told me the other night that my car looked like a pitbull waiting to attack. Hahaha

I went 12/12 to maintain the factory F?R track balance. IMO, the front fenders should overhang a little to look right. Pushing the front wheels out too much reminds me of a lot of picups I see with tires sticking out of the body.

The other thing is 15 mm starts to go beyond my confort range for spacer thickness. On the other hand, the 1/8" difference between the two is minimal.

MMMorish · 05-07-2009, 11:32 AM

Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about.

Three questions;
1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car?

2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling?

3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r

Please help!

Thanks!!

GregW / Oregon · 05-07-2009, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MMMorish

Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about.

Three questions;
1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car?
2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling?
3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r

Thanks!!

1 & 2. Differences will be very minimal. There could be some shortening of wheel bearing life, but again, minimal.
3. Who are you asking? Like with anything, there will be a diversion of opinions. You are talking about only 1/8" difference per side between 12s & 15s, so it's not dramatic. Look at the various photos posted in various threads of both setups and make up your own mind.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240884

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

l]http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

MMMorish · 05-07-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

1 & 2. Differences will be very minimal. There could be some shortening of wheel bearing life, but again, minimal.
3. Who are you asking? Like with anything, there will be a diversion of opinions. You are talking about only 1/8" difference per side between 12s & 15s, so it's not dramatic. Look at the various photos posted in various threads of both setups and make up your own mind.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=240884

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

l]http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...hlight=spacers

Thanks!

dawgdog · 05-07-2009, 08:38 PM

Great thread Greg. I am very interested in these spacers and would love to see photos of them on your car. Also, what do you use as an antiseizing (sp?) compound? I have never put spacers on but would like to do this right.

Thanks,
Carl

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chris s Major General 1250 Rep 6,912 Posts Drives: 2022 Dravit G80 M3 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York iTrader: (12)	Very nice...i'm considering 15/12 for front and rear. Seems to work nicely. Post pics. Did you pay extra for the black extended lugs? __________________ 2022 Dravit/Fiona M3cx - Dinan midpipe w/VC, NW Carbonhaus CF, AST Springs, FC Spacers...more to come! 2016 Indi F80 M3 - SMB\|Amaro \| Mode Carbon \| ESS \| Akra EVO \| KW HAS...SOLD 2012 MR e92 M3 DCT, ESS SC, Brembo BBK, BBS FI... GONE but not forgotten! 2008 AW e92 M3 6MT, ESS SC, BBS LM's...SOLD!
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wheelman Private First Class 3 Rep 115 Posts Drives: '09 E90 M3 MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (1)	I completely agree with Greg. My 15 & 12mm spacers and black bolts arrived from Rogue on Friday and were installed Saturday. I couldn't be happier with them. __________________
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MMMorish Just call me J.J. McClure 156 Rep 2,834 Posts Drives: E92 M3 & C4 Corvette Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Toronto iTrader: (5)	Pardon my ignorance, but doing spacers is something I've wanted to do for a while and I just don't have enough knowledge about. Three questions; 1. If I were to do spacers on a non lowered car, will it damage or potentially reduce the longevity of anything mechanical (suspension, tie rods, ect..) on my car? 2. Will it change the dynamics of the cars handling? 3. What is the best set up? Some here say 15f/12r and others say 12f/12r Please help! Thanks!! __________________ MODS: Meisterschaft GT Racing Exhaust / BMC Air Filter / UUC SSK & DSSR (Modded)/ RPI Scoops / Passport SRX Hardwired / Custom Wrap 3M Clearbra / 20% Tint / 50% Windshield Tint / Key Hole Delete / Matted Out Accessories / VRS Type II Diffuser / Smoked Reflectors / Euphoria 6K LED Interior Lights / Rear Fog Light Mod / 6000K HID's / 6500K LUX H8 Angel Eyes / RDash License Plate LED Kit / LED Xenon Reverse Lights "M3 drivers have no friends"
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dawgdog Colonel 148 Rep 2,278 Posts Drives: 2015 M3, 2016 GT3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. iTrader: (0)	Great thread Greg. I am very interested in these spacers and would love to see photos of them on your car. Also, what do you use as an antiseizing (sp?) compound? I have never put spacers on but would like to do this right. Thanks, Carl __________________ 2015 f80 M3, 2016 GT3
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