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10-06-2011, 01:42 AM | #1 |
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KW Competition 2-way + KW competition Camber plates
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As some of you may know I have recently purchased a set of KW Competition 2-way coilovers from M-World (Richard) Well informed guy! Good response to emails considering I'm half way around the world. I'm guess he doesn't sleep much at all OK so the purchase was straight forward and simple took a couple of emails to Richard how I wanted my car to feel (basically like a GT3RS) So he did suggest some spring rates! I ended up wth Front: 20% stiffer Rear: 20%stiffer there was also a option to choose the KW clubsport camber plates or KW competition camber plates. So I was thinking since I'm buying competition suspension why use non competition camber plates. I got my car alignment done today! and so far what does the car feel like?! in short! LIKE ON FUCKING RAILS I notice right way from the steering wheel you can feel the road a lot better now! and you can feel the suspension working instead of the car's Chassis twisting. I must say I'm more then happy with how the car handles now! I'm very very surprised that a M3 can feel like this! Granted I've done a lot of upgrades to my chassis to make it handle better but nothing comes even close to what these KW's Comp. set up I personally don't think I will ever purchase another (street) coilovers again. I think its a waste of money now! so for those who haven't seem the shitty pictures I have here they are again: Front side by side with PSS10: Rear side by side with PSS10 my alignment set up so far please feel free to comment: Front ride height: Rear ride height: there is 1 downside to this set up! which you will get a squeaking noise but I was aware of that before I got the suspension and the noise its coming from the camber plates. If you want to purchase a KW Comp. 2-way without the squeaking noise its also possible! just get the KW CS camber plates and that will solve the problem. so there is my short review! hope it was a helpful one and here are some pictures of the roll cage I have installed on my car:
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Seriously your car is turning out to be an overall monster in every automotive arena!
The KWs look great! Richard at MWorld is a pleasure to talk to and is definitely very knowledgable. The best part about the KWs is that it's a full plug and play kit all from the same manufacturer which is definitely a nice characteristic. How's the feel on the street? I'm not sure of the conditions of the roads there, but I'd be really interested to hear your street impressions as well. How does it soak up bumps, cracks, dips, etc? Was your car corner balanced? I noticed that your rear left and right camber is kind of far apart, or at least further than what I'm used to setting up in my cars. Thanks again for sharing! Hopefully you can share more with us in the future. I am currently debating between JRZ RS and the KW Competitions for my car as well.
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10-06-2011, 05:39 PM | #5 |
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Does it come with those green sway bar links?
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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it keeps the car up and just kinds of glide over it. don't get me wrong but its stiff but in a good way! the chose the KW Comp. was because it was a real pluge and play situation and when you order the coilovers you can also get many spring rates at once from KW Thanks! I got the CF version ones! they are discontinued but found a pair that was brand new!
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10-06-2011, 05:44 PM | #7 |
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no! the Green sway bars are from RD sport!
I got them from PYspeed
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10-06-2011, 09:50 PM | #8 |
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Damn, RD sways AND KW Comp. Love the cage and seats too.
SICK CAR!!!
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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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10-06-2011, 09:56 PM | #9 |
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thank you for the comment! Sir
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10-07-2011, 12:06 AM | #10 |
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Glad you are enjoying the set up! Was a pleasure working with you.
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10-07-2011, 12:17 AM | #11 |
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No thank you sir for the detailed info
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10-07-2011, 03:19 PM | #12 |
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Too bad the camber plates make noise. You should look into putting a radial bearing in to eliminate that. My vorshlag plates remain silent after almost one year. I like the rear mounts that kw supplies.
I'm curious to here what you think about the sways now that you have proper spring rates. My car already lifts the front inside tire in typical BMW fashion with the stock sways and I don't feel like I need any more bar with my spring rates. |
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as for the sway bar what do you mean by '' lifts the front inside''
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10-08-2011, 12:06 AM | #14 |
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The Competition camber plate itself, or Competition solid mounts in general, make minimal noise. But because everything is metal to eliminate unwanted deflection, they transmit noise more readily than those with bushings.
KW Competition 2-Way dampers are low to zero pressure dampers to minimize internal friction, and during compression blow off the dampers would make a swishing sound. Together with solid mounts, and the removal of a car's internal sound deadening materials, this blow off sound may be audible inside the cabin. As Eugene said, the kit can be built with Clubsport camber plates. The Clubsport plate adds a polymer disc between the spherical bearing and the upper spring perch to isolate noise. However, the inherent characteristic of the disc material makes the plate less durable for heavy track use. The Competition line is intended for competitive drivers who want maximum performance on the race track. Therefore performance and durability are the top priority. For those who want a more street-biased set up, KW has the Clubsport line which is a hybrid between a race kit and a street kit.
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just to come back on the camber plate noise I just found out that it wasn't my plates it was actually coming from the roll cage. I guess the car is a lot stiffer now so the roll cage is just letting me know
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Well done Richard for providing a sorted out plug and play track ready setup! Seems like you're providing better engineered turn key setups than the big boys. One question though. What spring rates are you running Just kidding. Enjoy the setup. |
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10-09-2011, 12:56 AM | #17 |
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damn... this is a sick set up... i wished i could run something like this on my car but i think it will render my car almost undriveable on the street. my ride is already fairly harsh on firmer settings with KW V3. i am think the roads in taiwan are probably better than what we have in the north east.
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the road conditions are about the same. I just don't drive my car everyday.
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maybe one of these days we can ship out cars to China and use the F1 tracks there.
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Found out the other day that GC makes some adjustable end links for front and rear you can add to your sways so you can corner balance your car
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10-09-2011, 06:07 PM | #21 |
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good to know that there's another track opening up in taiwan... thats the problem with having a track beast in asia, there's no where to drive it!.... i have family and friends in indonesia and singapore (i am indonesian) and some of them have pretty powerful cars but there arent any tracks readily available to bring the car to.
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I guess these are the same thing for just for the front Quote:
but that is the only one I know of. there are a lot of tracks in China that is opening up or have opened up recently
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