Made a mistake and drove a stage III b5 S4...

djdiplomat · 04-01-2012, 08:25 PM

I know, know.... does not compare to the M3's handling, sound, looks, etc.... but boy does it PULL. 1st, and 3rd are brutal... Had 4 of them in the past 10 years but totally forgot how big of a beast they are in stage 3 form (well sorted out). Awesome straight line performer! I wonder how a Supercharged M3 will do against one...

kthxbye · 04-01-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by djdiplomat

I wonder how a Supercharged M3 will do against one...

Anyone have any experience? I'd be curious to know as well

boostedM · 04-02-2012, 11:48 AM

I'll ask around and see if anyone in my area has one and report back

jeff@autocouture · 04-02-2012, 11:56 AM

m3 does better

, awesome cars but biggest money pits!, a supercharged m3 will have no issue keeping up

mdosu · 04-02-2012, 04:17 PM

modified S4s are crazy fast, but you can make any car with an aftermarket turbo faster than a stock M3...

Hell, I've seen Neon SRT4s run crazy times, but I wouldn't be caught dead in one....

DARK_M3 · 04-02-2012, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

modified S4s are crazy fast, but you can make any car with an aftermarket turbo faster than a stock M3...

Hell, I've seen Neon SRT4s run crazy times, but I wouldn't be caught dead in one....

Truth. I mean just about any turbo car can be set up with the right amount of cash and know how to beat just about any other car. I remember my Evo IX being pretty goddamn quick (about equal with a Carrera S on the freeway once

) but I gotta say, I dropped into 3rd today and put my foot down in the M3 and it's just faster with harder, more linear pull. There's no comparison.

If mad pull and straightline speed over a short low gear distance is your thing then why not get a blown big block 67 Camaro or something? It always fascinates me that people want to compare an M3 (or any other track purpose car) to a drag car. The M3 might pull down some respectable times at a quarter mile strip but it's not a drag car.

I mean, do people just want to 'show up' someone else's car from 1st to 3rd gear? If I wanted to do that, I would have invested my M3 money in that Camaro I mentioned earlier and saved a bunch of money probably and it would sound a lot better too!

DARK_M3 · 04-02-2012, 04:47 PM

There's Audi's and then there's..... AUDI'S!

adc · 04-02-2012, 07:44 PM

B5 S4 is nothing special IMO.

If I ever win the lottery, one car in my ideal garage will be a mid-80s Audi Sport Quattro modified by Dahlback. They exist in various states of tune, but the top dogs can get 900-1200 BHP using internals from Audi's winning IMSA racers from the early 90s.

How's this for sheer fun, sound and fury?

kmarei · 04-02-2012, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by adc

B5 S4 is nothing special IMO.

If I ever win the lottery, one car in my ideal garage will be a mid-80s Audi Sport Quattro modified by Dahlback. They exist in various states of tune, but the top dogs can get 900-1200 BHP using internals from Audi's winning IMSA racers from the early 90s.

How's this for sheer fun, sound and fury?

The Audi Sport Quattro is one of the finest Group B cars ever made
That and the Lancia Delta Integrale S4
Those 2 cars, along with the E30 M3 gave me many a woody as a teenager

klammer · 04-02-2012, 09:02 PM

Car looks like a ton of fun, but is that because it looks like it's got the shortest wheelbase ever.That is some serious overhang

djdiplomat · 04-02-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by boostedM

I'll ask around and see if anyone in my area has one and report back

If I end up buying this one I'll let you know since I am pretty close. I just want it as a DD to toy around with. I would love a ride in a SC M3...always been curious to see for myself how it pulls.

Singletrack · 04-02-2012, 09:16 PM

My buddy has a MTM C5 RS6 with an upgraded tranny.

You *cannot* breathe when he accelerates on the highway at WOT.

djdiplomat · 04-02-2012, 09:18 PM

mdosu · 04-02-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DARK_M3

Truth. I mean just about any turbo car can be set up with the right amount of cash and know how to beat just about any other car. I remember my Evo IX being pretty goddamn quick (about equal with a Carrera S on the freeway once

) but I gotta say, I dropped into 3rd today and put my foot down in the M3 and it's just faster with harder, more linear pull. There's no comparison.

If mad pull and straightline speed over a short low gear distance is your thing then why not get a blown big block 67 Camaro or something? It always fascinates me that people want to compare an M3 (or any other track purpose car) to a drag car. The M3 might pull down some respectable times at a quarter mile strip but it's not a drag car.

I mean, do people just want to 'show up' someone else's car from 1st to 3rd gear? If I wanted to do that, I would have invested my M3 money in that Camaro I mentioned earlier and saved a bunch of money probably and it would sound a lot better too!

yeah man, seriously...

Everytime I think of people who just want straight line speed, why not just get a 94 mustang with drag radials, or a Buick Grand National, or a SRT4 or a Gram AM, or Firebird, oh wait, you wouldn't want to be caught dead in one...

mdosu · 04-02-2012, 10:09 PM

but since we're in the mood of stupid drag racing, why not put a Hayabusa in it?

DARK_M3 · 04-02-2012, 10:15 PM

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yeah man, seriously...

Everytime I think of people who just want straight line speed, why not just get a 94 mustang with drag radials, or a Buick Grand National, or a SRT4 or a Gram AM, or Firebird, oh wait, you wouldn't want to be caught dead in one...

Ooooh... Buick Grand National!

boostedM · 04-02-2012, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by djdiplomat

If I end up buying this one I'll let you know since I am pretty close. I just want it as a DD to toy around with. I would love a ride in a SC M3...always been curious to see for myself how it pulls.

haha yeah I'm always down to show off a little. Let me know!

Alex07M3 · 04-02-2012, 10:50 PM

Always LOVED those cars !! I would still love to have one in top shape !!

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DARK_M3 · 04-03-2012, 12:02 AM

Looks alright but those chrome mirrors gotta goooooooooooooo!

Alex07M3 · 04-03-2012, 12:13 AM

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Looks alright but those chrome mirrors gotta goooooooooooooo!

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Singletrack · 04-03-2012, 08:57 AM

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Looks alright but those chrome mirrors gotta goooooooooooooo!

LOL...dude, those are SOLID aluminum CNC'ed and polished to a mirror finish. They are absolutely stunning in person : )

bruce.augenstein@comcast. · 04-03-2012, 10:06 AM

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yeah man, seriously...

Everytime I think of people who just want straight line speed, why not just get a 94 mustang with drag radials, or a Buick Grand National, or a SRT4 or a Gram AM, or Firebird, oh wait, you wouldn't want to be caught dead in one...

My bone stock SRT4 was pretty much a killer car at Lime Rock, NHIS, Mont Tremblant, etc. Equipped only with track sneakers and pads, it would absolutely eat up similarly equipped E36 M3s, and easily stay with E46s, except down a long straight where they would pull me by three or four car lengths. We would run pretty much even up in terms of lap times, because the little Mopar could typically come out of corners a little harder, riding a massive, boost-inspired torque wave.

Yes, a definitive bottom-feeder from Chrysler, but as a track car, an absolute gem. Bulletproof, as well. Never had a problem with it, of any kind. Pissed off dozens of M3 guys, I can tell you.

I know the feeling, having been definitively dispatched on track by a '97 ACR Neon in my '95 M3 way back when. Oh, the shame!

Bruce

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