Competition Package

cwspan · 06-29-2011, 06:32 PM

Thank you all for your advice. I decided to order the package and pick up the car at the performance center. Enjoy.

ES_TRADER · 06-29-2011, 09:36 PM

CON: stiffer suspension = more rattles

///My5UV · 06-29-2011, 09:41 PM

Comfort mode = less rattles

Dave07997S · 06-29-2011, 09:57 PM

There is no real cons to the ZCP package. If I dropped the car it wouldn't be much more than 10mm's anyway. The ZCP was a win in my book..I think you made the right choice.

Dave

stuka · 06-29-2011, 10:55 PM

I just got it because the wheels are easy to clean. Don't care for EDC or DSC and all those other nonesense, but buying the wheels separately was not cost effective.

Meff · 06-29-2011, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seattle S65B40

Not sure what all the fuss is over?

For $2500 bucks it's a no-brainer. Wheels, suspension, ride height, revised mdm characteristics, resale benefits....

Well said

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwspan

Thank you all for your advice. I decided to order the package and pick up the car at the performance center. Enjoy.

You made the right call.

rye m3 · 06-30-2011, 12:03 AM

Biggest point - you can't add the M dynamic traction control aftermarket. Springs and wheels, yes, but not the traction control change. Finally BMW gets it right. Drive a 911 and you can get it sideways before the traction control comes on. Finally, instead of BOGGING down, my M3 does the same thing. The lowered ride height and nice wheels just complete the perfect package.

FASTTOYS · 06-30-2011, 02:14 AM

Even if g-forces don't blow up and lap times resist slipping in this new Comp-spec M3, it's the hard-core, all-natural feeling that makes the package the best $2500 you can spend on the model. Retaining the M3's everyday practicality and comfort should make the buy all the more sweeter

It's amazing that these minor suspension and electronic tweaks can make such a comprehensive change in the car's already precise demeanor. It's like a Hellfire missile rewired to turn in mere inches. Its explosiveness is still ferocious, but versatility grows tremendously. Simply put, it better uses what it already possesses.

Hustle the M3 around town and the firmer ride instantly becomes recognizable. It's not jarring or uncomfortable, just communicative. Every inch of the passing road transmits through its electronically assisted helm as if your mitts themselves were tracing the surface below.

Before the Competition, corner attacking was vicious, but poised; an event predominantly marked by sharp athletic cuts. The M3 with the new package does the same, but two steps quicker and with studier feet

Nelrock · 06-30-2011, 08:26 AM

My driveway won't allow me to do a full drop, so the ZCP package was perfect. I also really liked the 359M wheels.
So...no cons from my standpoint.

Raz335 · 06-30-2011, 08:52 AM

If I went with a E92 instead of E93, I would have ordered ZCP for sure.

immiketoo · 06-30-2011, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Leonardo629

I got it purely for the wheel design and the lowered suspension...

Same here.

///My5UV · 06-30-2011, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rye m3

Biggest point - you can't add the M dynamic traction control aftermarket. Springs and wheels, yes, but not the traction control change.

This. I didn't even want the EDC but I figured changing the traction control limits would be hard to do right aftermarket, and I liked the wheels.

snowboarder · 06-30-2011, 10:55 AM

I didn't want to lower my car and wanted my own
(different than everybody) wheels. Didn't care for a stiffer setting
than normal -> skipped it.

PhillyNate · 07-01-2011, 07:24 PM

Finally had to bite the bullett today and start backing into the driveway. This is a pain but I was tired of the slight scraping when I exit my residence. It was driving me nuts!

amglol · 07-01-2011, 08:54 PM

i wasn't going to order it when we first looked back in february, but after reconsidering the wheels and the traction control changes, it was worth it.

bigjae1976 · 07-02-2011, 10:41 AM

I left off the comp package for the following reasons. Keep in mind I plan on keeping the car for a long time.

1. 2011s have M drive standard, don't need the comp or tech pkg
2. I did not think that EDC made such a significant difference...more expensive to replace.
3. The wheels look nice but nothing special. 19" tires are expensive and selection is limited.
4. Unlike the E46 ZCP, this version does not include better brakes or a quicker steering rack...the only thing that would be tough to upgrade is the EDC calibration (don't care) and some M-Drive stuff (don't care).

So I will just go with the APEX ARC8s for wheels and Dinan Stage I for a suspension upgrade.

CrazyIvan · 07-02-2011, 01:13 PM

Wheels alone make it worth it. The rest is the bonus.

CalgaryX3 · 07-03-2011, 07:32 AM

It's amazing how dichotomous the responses here are. I left off ZCP on my initial order since I liked the look of the 220s more, and didn't care much for the 10mm drop or the EDC for the extra cost.

After the dealer screwed up my first order, and "encouraged" me to reorder save refunding my deposit, I was able to negotiate the ZCP into the deal with negligible cost to me. If I had to pay for it, I'm not sure that I would have ordered it, but since the price was right, I couldn't turn it down!

A

M3maniac20 · 07-03-2011, 08:22 AM

Pros: Makes the car look GREAT, wasn't for sure about those wheels at first and took me a LONG time before I could say yes, but that was only when pictures were out and I hadn't physically seen a car with ZCP, also price point is around the same area if you configured it with the other 19's and EDC, and it separates the it from the previous model years of the M

Cons: The wheels are a bitch to clean (not a big deal) and that suspension is FIRM...I would like to know a statistic of people encountering rattles with and with out ZCP.

bigjae1976 · 07-03-2011, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalgaryX3

It's amazing how dichotomous the responses here are. I left off ZCP on my initial order since I liked the look of the 220s more, and didn't care much for the 10mm drop or the EDC for the extra cost.

I guess the follow on for my reasoning is that I have a set of 18" VMR CSL reps in my garage which I used on my 330 for daily driving.

Which definitely swayed my decision...probably should have pointed that out.

PhillyNate · 07-03-2011, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyIvan

Wheels alone make it worth it. The rest is the bonus.

agreed.

06-29-2011, 06:32 PM	#23
cwspan New Member 2 Rep 7 Posts Drives: 2016 m4, 2020 X3m40i Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: dade city, florida iTrader: (0)	Thank you all for your advice. I decided to order the package and pick up the car at the performance center. Enjoy.
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06-29-2011, 09:36 PM	#24
ES_TRADER Colonel 344 Rep 2,928 Posts Drives: 328i, 335i, M3, 535i, X5, 36M Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: OC iTrader: (3) Garage List 2014 Ford Raptor [0.00] 2012 328i E92 [10.00] 2013 X5 [0.00] 2013 335i F30 [8.00] 1990 Toyota Previa [0.00] 1997 E36 M3 [10.00] 2011 E92 M3 [0.00] 2011 535i [0.00]	CON: stiffer suspension = more rattles
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06-29-2011, 09:57 PM	#26
Dave07997S Brigadier General 720 Rep 3,964 Posts Drives: 2020 Ford Mustang GT Join Date: May 2009 Location: El Segundo, CA iTrader: (1)	There is no real cons to the ZCP package. If I dropped the car it wouldn't be much more than 10mm's anyway. The ZCP was a win in my book..I think you made the right choice. Dave __________________ 2020 Ford Mustang GT 6MT PP1 444rwhp (Sold)2013 M3 Coupe-MR/BLK ZCP, 2011 M3 Coupe-MR/Blk 2007 Porsche 997C2S Speed Yellow/Blk sport seats 2004 BMW M3 Imola/Blk
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06-29-2011, 10:55 PM	#27
stuka Private First Class 22 Rep 194 Posts Drives: 06 M3 ZCP Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston iTrader: (0)	I just got it because the wheels are easy to clean. Don't care for EDC or DSC and all those other nonesense, but buying the wheels separately was not cost effective.
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06-30-2011, 12:03 AM	#29
rye m3 Lieutenant 33 Rep 489 Posts Drives: 2011.75 E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: New York iTrader: (2)	Biggest point - you can't add the M dynamic traction control aftermarket. Springs and wheels, yes, but not the traction control change. Finally BMW gets it right. Drive a 911 and you can get it sideways before the traction control comes on. Finally, instead of BOGGING down, my M3 does the same thing. The lowered ride height and nice wheels just complete the perfect package. __________________ E92 M3 MR on Red/Black ZCP Sound Carbon 2007 997S - sold 2003 E46 M3 Steel Grey on Red- sold 1997 E36 M3 Arctic Silver on Black- sold
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06-30-2011, 02:14 AM	#30
FASTTOYS Second Lieutenant 52 Rep 291 Posts Drives: Audi R8, X3M, XC60 R-Line Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: USA TEXAS iTrader: (1)	Motor Trend & Others Say Must Have Pkg Even if g-forces don't blow up and lap times resist slipping in this new Comp-spec M3, it's the hard-core, all-natural feeling that makes the package the best $2500 you can spend on the model. Retaining the M3's everyday practicality and comfort should make the buy all the more sweeter It's amazing that these minor suspension and electronic tweaks can make such a comprehensive change in the car's already precise demeanor. It's like a Hellfire missile rewired to turn in mere inches. Its explosiveness is still ferocious, but versatility grows tremendously. Simply put, it better uses what it already possesses. Hustle the M3 around town and the firmer ride instantly becomes recognizable. It's not jarring or uncomfortable, just communicative. Every inch of the passing road transmits through its electronically assisted helm as if your mitts themselves were tracing the surface below. Before the Competition, corner attacking was vicious, but poised; an event predominantly marked by sharp athletic cuts. The M3 with the new package does the same, but two steps quicker and with studier feet
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06-30-2011, 08:26 AM	#31
Nelrock Lieutenant 14 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Oklahoma iTrader: (0)	My driveway won't allow me to do a full drop, so the ZCP package was perfect. I also really liked the 359M wheels. So...no cons from my standpoint. __________________ 2011 E92 M3 \| Melbourne Red \| Black Novillo w/Carbon Leather Trim \| M-DCT \| Competition Package \| Premium Package 2 \| Convenience Package \| Enhanced Premium Sound \| Heated Front Seats 2004 E46 M3 \| Silver Grey \| - Retired
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06-30-2011, 08:52 AM	#32
Raz335 Major 53 Rep 1,162 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Convertible Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: LI,NY iTrader: (2)	If I went with a E92 instead of E93, I would have ordered ZCP for sure. __________________ Jerez Black/Fox E93 M3 - Prem 2/Cold/Conv/DCT/EDC/19's/Ext Lthr/Crbn Trim/Enhanced Sound/Sat Mods- 20" BBS LM's DBK/Challenge Catback/Eibachs/Trim wrapped black/Lux Angel eyes/35% Tint
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06-30-2011, 10:55 AM	#35
snowboarder Private First Class 18 Rep 129 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: May 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	I didn't want to lower my car and wanted my own (different than everybody) wheels. Didn't care for a stiffer setting than normal -> skipped it.
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07-01-2011, 07:24 PM	#36
PhillyNate ENTHUSIAST 135 Rep 2,097 Posts Drives: 2010 Porsche Cayman Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Philadelphia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 Porsche Cayman [0.00]	Finally had to bite the bullett today and start backing into the driveway. This is a pain but I was tired of the slight scraping when I exit my residence. It was driving me nuts! __________________ "what I'm driving here...is an ending." Jeremy Clarkson 2010 Carrara White Porsche Cayman 6mt 2014 Whiteout Toyota GT-86 6mt(Sold 05/23/15) 2011 Alpine White BMW M3 6mt ZCP Coupe(forced retirement 06/06/14) 2008 Alpine White BMW 328i 6mt Coupe(retired 06/21/11)
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07-01-2011, 08:54 PM	#37
amglol Private First Class 3 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	i wasn't going to order it when we first looked back in february, but after reconsidering the wheels and the traction control changes, it was worth it. __________________ /// E90 M3 :: Alpine White :: Novillo Black / Carbon Leather :: Competition :: Premium :: Convenience :: MDCT :: EPS
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07-02-2011, 10:41 AM	#38
bigjae1976 Major General 1570 Rep 8,075 Posts Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (22) Garage List 2004 BMW M3 [4.50] 2011 BMW E90 M3 [5.25] 2013 BMW 328i [5.00]	I left off the comp package for the following reasons. Keep in mind I plan on keeping the car for a long time. 1. 2011s have M drive standard, don't need the comp or tech pkg 2. I did not think that EDC made such a significant difference...more expensive to replace. 3. The wheels look nice but nothing special. 19" tires are expensive and selection is limited. 4. Unlike the E46 ZCP, this version does not include better brakes or a quicker steering rack...the only thing that would be tough to upgrade is the EDC calibration (don't care) and some M-Drive stuff (don't care). So I will just go with the APEX ARC8s for wheels and Dinan Stage I for a suspension upgrade. __________________ 2018 F30 320iX Melbourne Red 2011 E90 M3 Monte Carlo Blue 2004 E46 M3 Imola Red 2000 E36/7 Z3 Steel Blue
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07-02-2011, 01:13 PM	#39
CrazyIvan Lieutenant 29 Rep 488 Posts Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: MD iTrader: (0)	Wheels alone make it worth it. The rest is the bonus. __________________
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07-03-2011, 07:32 AM	#40
CalgaryX3 Captain 169 Rep 659 Posts Drives: 2007 E90 335i / 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Calgary, Alberta Canada iTrader: (0)	It's amazing how dichotomous the responses here are. I left off ZCP on my initial order since I liked the look of the 220s more, and didn't care much for the 10mm drop or the EDC for the extra cost. After the dealer screwed up my first order, and "encouraged" me to reorder save refunding my deposit, I was able to negotiate the ZCP into the deal with negligible cost to me. If I had to pay for it, I'm not sure that I would have ordered it, but since the price was right, I couldn't turn it down! A
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07-03-2011, 08:22 AM	#41
M3maniac20 Captain 87 Rep 725 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 335is Coupe Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Austin, Texas iTrader: (0)	Pros: Makes the car look GREAT, wasn't for sure about those wheels at first and took me a LONG time before I could say yes, but that was only when pictures were out and I hadn't physically seen a car with ZCP, also price point is around the same area if you configured it with the other 19's and EDC, and it separates the it from the previous model years of the M Cons: The wheels are a bitch to clean (not a big deal) and that suspension is FIRM...I would like to know a statistic of people encountering rattles with and with out ZCP. __________________ 2016 340i M-Sport 6-MT(on order) 2013 335is (still have) 2011.5 M3 ZCP (traded in)
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