|
|
11-30-2010, 04:30 PM | #23 |
Captain of the Enterprise
101
Rep 1,424
Posts |
Yes, there is. Here is the description from BMW:
"Based on Formula One instrumentation, the Performance Steering Wheel displays critical data from the powertrain and chassis and positions it where your eyes focus naturally. Intuitive controls and an icon-based interface provide seamless access to a G-meter, a stopwatch with lap timing functions, a quarter-mile timer, an engine temp readout, and adjustable shift lights. Leather and Alcantara® designs add a stylish touch to the vehicle interior and harmonize with other BMW Performance accessories." Can anyone comment on it's practicality as a gear indicator? |
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 04:34 PM | #24 |
Captain of the Enterprise
101
Rep 1,424
Posts |
I found a great thread regarding approaching a hard 90-degree turn...
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthr...ct+clutch+mode |
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 04:42 PM | #25 | |
Banned
43
Rep 2,406
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 07:58 PM | #26 | |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:17 PM | #27 | |
Happy Camper
613
Rep 7,869
Posts
Drives: C63 AMG & 280 SL on Weekends :
Join Date: May 2010
Location: GTA, Ontario - Canada
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 1969 Restored Merce ... [7.50]
2011 M3 Coupe TRADED [7.34] 1987 BMW 535is [1.00] Cars from the Past [6.50] The ///M3 Engine S65 [9.59] |
Quote:
CLICK here for more posts on the subject And here for a detail Review
__________________
Cheers, Rolf-Dieter
Life will take us to some interesting places, fortunately The ///M3 will too with a many of us know this very well, now my C6.3 AMG with 487 HP does it too ---> Click here for some good stuff I found |
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:18 PM | #28 |
Moderator
7515
Rep 19,368
Posts |
A pirate walks into a bar, and he's got a steering wheel sticking out of his pants. The bartender sees him and asks, "Hey, what's that steering wheel doing there?" The pirate says, "Aaarrrr, it's driving me nuts."
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:24 PM | #29 |
Veni Vidi Vici
89
Rep 2,750
Posts
Drives: '11 JB/BBe-6sp-e90
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Macungie PA
iTrader: (0)
Garage List 2011 e90 M3-Sold [8.50]
2003 RS6 - Sold [0.00] 2009 e90 M3 - Gone [0.00] 2003 M3 SOLD [0.00] old 2002 [10.00] |
I'd like to give you the benefit of my 50k miles of DCT driving but ...
All kidding aside, you just need to get used to it. It will also adapt to your driving style over time. Usually, a couple of weeks.
__________________
Dinan compliment of stuff plus PF rotors and RG63s. Enough for now. Why, yes. I am an abrasive bastard. |
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:44 PM | #30 |
Brigadier General
3107
Rep 3,072
Posts
Drives: 2023 iX M60 Oxide
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: UT
|
Hmm, I've never had the DCT shift for me, at all, unless I'm at or under 1k RPM in my current gear. If I were trying to drive quickly, I'd never let it get close to that anyway. Of course, I've only driven mine is S5, I can't vouch for the other modes. As for what gear you're in, just get used to listening to the engine and knowing what shifts you need to make accordingly. You know, the old fashioned way! Of course, if you're keeping your revs in a good place your view of the display won't be blocked when you're shifting.
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:46 PM | #31 |
Major General
892
Rep 9,032
Posts |
This is the car being blamed for driver error...
__________________
Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
|
Appreciate
0
|
11-30-2010, 08:58 PM | #32 |
The Boss
110
Rep 4,948
Posts
Drives: %E2%80%9816 F15 X6
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Illinois
|
No to thread jack but what mode do you guys drive around in most of the time? I have only had the car for a few days and it is def taking me some time to figure it all out. It is a lot different than my 335, that's for sure! Can't wait to get it all worked out. Car is a lot of fun.
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-03-2010, 07:48 AM | #34 | |
Private First Class
2
Rep 183
Posts |
Quote:
However, you can leave the gear change until after you finish braking. You just have to notice the gear number before you start to turn the wheel - and to be aware that the number comes up on the dash a little bit earlier than the actual gear change. I find either method works well. BTW, I am really surprised you did not find this issue in your previous car; I have driven several BMW's with Steptronic, and they all changed down automatically at low revs. Unlike the M3 DCT, they also changed up automatically before hitting the rev limiter, whereas the M3 will hit the rev limiter if you don't pull the right paddle in time. One further point. I like smooth upchanges, so I drive in S1. I also like smooth downchanges, so I use Heel and Toe to apply gas at the same time as braking while making my downchanges. I wish that S3 was set to give you S1 upchanges and S5 downchanges (or that you could choose a setting for upchanges and downchanges seperately). I don't understand why people like harsh upchanges; acceleration tests have shown that the car does not accelerate any faster in S6 than in S1, it just inserts an artificial thunk which can throw the car offline. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-03-2010, 07:58 AM | #35 | |
Colonel
408
Rep 2,171
Posts |
Quote:
Based on my about four years of track experience racing, tracking and attending track schools on my motorcycles -- at least for bikes I can tell you that you need to brake, blip throttle/downshift at the same time (* This applies only for the track ) So coming down a straightaway into a turn.. I would: 1. Set my body position up (butt to the inside of the turn, tucked in) while still at speed 2. Start braking, throttle blipping (rev match) and downshifting - all at the same time 3. As I start the turn in, I am already setup in the right gear, at the right entry speed and right body position - so my bike is very stable through the turn 4. as soon as I hit the apex, I start rolling on the throttle 5. stand the bike up a bit and go WOT exiting the turn (an advanced variation of this is to carry your braking right to the apex - this is called trail braking) I know cars are more stop-and-go at tracks so the techniques are slightly different but I imagine you'd still need to ensure you get all your downshifting and braking done simultaneously before you enter the turn and then be very stable and in the right gear/speed through the turn... Last edited by w00tw00t; 12-03-2010 at 11:27 AM.. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-03-2010, 02:44 PM | #36 | |
Dog Listener
707
Rep 7,850
Posts |
Quote:
So, my advice would be to either let the car shift for you or use one of the higher S modes and do it yourself. Don't use D-mode and then try to shift yourself on top of it. In S-mode the car will finally drop gears if you're going uber slow, but it's not going to do that in a 20-30 MPH turn (unless it's FUBAR). |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-03-2010, 03:49 PM | #37 |
First Lieutenant
14
Rep 397
Posts |
As several people have stated, put it in S4 or above and the car will rev match for you. Your issue should be solved. Plus the sound of the throttle blips when the revs are matched is quite nice .
__________________
09 E92 M3, Space Grey, Fox Red, DCT - Current
05 E46 M3 - Gone 02 330ci - Gone 99 Lexus GS400 - Gone |
Appreciate
0
|
12-04-2010, 10:28 AM | #38 |
Private First Class
16
Rep 197
Posts |
Make an appointment at your local dealership and have them install 2.39. There is a bulletin to update all DCT software. All I can say is it eliminated completely the lag, the car now improved Drive mode shifts, and feels like a completely new car !
__________________
2008 - E92 AW DCT, AA Filter
Retired: 135i, 330i, LR3 HSE, Cooper S. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-04-2010, 04:41 PM | #39 | |
Private First Class
10
Rep 105
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-04-2010, 09:10 PM | #40 |
Second Lieutenant
19
Rep 226
Posts |
"As a I turn the wheel into the turn, the gear indicator on the dash is obstructed by the steering wheel, the DCT throws me into either 2nd or 3rd gear, and I have NO IDEA what gear I'm in when throttling out of the turn."
You must in the automatic mode for an automatic downshift to occur unless you were slow enough to lug the engine, which does not appear to be the situaiton. In auto, it will downshift to the gear it feels appropriate, then when you hit the selector to drop a gear, it drops one gear and changes to manual mode. You should be in either manual or automatic mode. Changing in a corner would only gets confusing. |
Appreciate
0
|
12-04-2010, 09:50 PM | #41 |
Lieutenant Colonel
90
Rep 1,769
Posts
Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
|
Are you driving in "D" mode????
The car will automatically downshift and rev-match to the proper gear when you brake hard (assuming you're in D4 minimum - no reason to drive this car in D3,2,1 for SPIRITED driving - always drive in D4 or D5 (D6 with DSC off)). If you're in "S" mode, you do the shifting yourself. You can downshift and rev-match as you brake into a turn. If you're not used to it yet, brake hard and double-tap the downshift paddle to drop two gears instantly. You should ALWAYS know what gear you're in when driving in "S" mode - have it in your head. Looking at the dash to see what gear you're in, I just don't drive like that, those seconds or milliseconds can cost you in racing (or in this case confuse you in spirited driving). If I'm driving in 4th, brake hard to enter a turn, quick double-paddle to 2nd - I know I'm in second and can accelerate out of the turn, I don't need a steering wheel or dash to tell me what gear I'm in.
__________________
'12 CLS550 Palladium Silver - loaded
'11 E92 M3 ZCP - SG/B-EXT/CF, M-DCT, loaded '11 E93 328i, BSM over Saddle Brown, sport, loaded '08 550i M-Sport, Carbon Black (Gone but not forgotten), '06 W211 E55 AMG (Gone, miss this animal),'01 E39 540i Sport |
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2010, 04:59 PM | #42 |
Major
80
Rep 1,245
Posts |
i know this has been discussed before- but is there a definitive answer on how bad engine braking really is for the car?
__________________
2011 AW/FR Extended E92 M3... fully loaded
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2010, 05:21 PM | #43 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
90
Rep 1,769
Posts
Drives: 2011 E92 M3 ZCP
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: SoCal
|
Quote:
Just don't go into 1st that often
__________________
'12 CLS550 Palladium Silver - loaded
'11 E92 M3 ZCP - SG/B-EXT/CF, M-DCT, loaded '11 E93 328i, BSM over Saddle Brown, sport, loaded '08 550i M-Sport, Carbon Black (Gone but not forgotten), '06 W211 E55 AMG (Gone, miss this animal),'01 E39 540i Sport |
|
Appreciate
0
|
12-05-2010, 10:05 PM | #44 |
M enthusiast. BMW CCA member.
13
Rep 156
Posts |
doing all your braking and downshifting before the turn gets you in optimal gear...you should know what gear you're in when doing this. If you don't, you're passively driving and should engage the auto-drive setting for auto-shifting
this may not be relavent for DCT, but still the same concept -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heel-and-toe I know it seems really basic, but a good refresher. Gotta keep your head in the game as if you were driving a motorcycle.
__________________
2011 ///M3 e92 7MDCT 19", Alpine White, Black Leather/Carbon, Loaded
2005 ///M3 e46 6MT 19", ZCP, Carbon Black, Black/Alcantara seats (sold, but not forgotten!) |
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|