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It does look like Interlagos, but the picture is so bad it could just be emphasising the blue/purple in Jerez.
Interestingly, if it is IB, then they've gone for Fox Red interior which I think will look good. |
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Even in a relative sense, I could not see going with a standard 997 instead of an M3, even if the prices are the same. I know that even in standard non-S form the 997 is a formidable car, but I personally would not choose it over an M3. But if there is only a small difference in price between a new M3 and a new 997S or even a low mileage one year old 997S, then the M3 becomes harder to justify (unless you need four really useable seats). I cannot see that happening, though, if BMW is really planning on selling 100k M3s. |
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Regarding the base model - I'm sure I'd miss the torque of the 3.8L. I don't track though. Reading about the C2S vs the C2 on the internet is one thing. Spending some time in a so called lowly C2 is another. Its an impressive car. My 01 M3 was fast and never left me wanting more. Look at the C2 specs. 4.8s. Sound familiar? I'm not doing anything until I drive the M3, but I like smaller, responsive cars that are fun to drive. The e46 felt that way. I drove the 335i and found it pretty ponderous. |
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[quote=ILC32;1329257]I know that even in standard non-S form the 997 is a formidable car, but I personally would not choose it over an M3.
I am not saying the standard 997 is lowly or not impressive. I don't recall anyone else saying that in this thread either. |
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If it options out to 65K (without NAV) then the Porsche is a moot discussion really. I just keep thinking that they are prepping us for p-car pricing when they compared the M3 to the 997 in sales literature. Unfortunately I think the car will base at 65 or so which certainly invites the comparision.
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Also - don't forget the e46 M3 with the Comp Package. In CPO the car has a warranty though 2012 and it is a far better car than the plain jane 335i. In a few years the 335i will be just another 3 series with wheels that can't fill the rear wells while the M3 will always be an M. Something special. Currently goes for around 45K - 52K so its right on the money. |
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1) the 911 is not a 4 seater, it's a 2+2. there's a big difference there. the superfluous two seats are there basically for no reason other than to lower your insurance premium. there's a good reason you used your children as your back seat passenger example... because no non-midget-sized adult would ever think or want to sit back there. and really, even a child over 10 would find himself extraordinarily uncomfortable in those back seats, unless of course your child is made of clay. for all intents and purposes, the porsche is a 2 seater. 2) even if you're the type of person who's willing to pay 42-52k for a used bmw, and moreover a used last generation bmw, your warranty under CPO isn't anywhere near as all-encompassing as a new BMW's 4year/50k mile warranty. i also think you'll find there are a substantial percentage of M3 owners who disagree with you about the 335 "being just another bmw", as you'll find there are a great number of e46 M3 owners who've sold their cars for the 335i instead. - esquire
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It boggles my mind that anyone would sell an M for a regular 3 series but that's ok I guess I drove the 335i. Soft suspension. Weak exhaust note. Rear wheels don't properly fit the rear wheel wells. The car was great for a 3 series but it is no M. Apparently it is fast in a strait line but overall I thought it was pretty soft in favor of lux. |
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+1 Albiet, a great car, but it is what it is. |
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Eastie, this obsession with Jerez is getting to be unhealthy.........
Seriously, if you've ever seen Carbon Black then you've got a VERY good idea of what Jerez looks like. There does appear to be a purplish sheen to it at times. If you don't mind that get it- otherwise I would pick something else..... |
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