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08-22-2011, 10:40 AM | #111 |
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^ Interesting, though, that Lexus appears to be joining Cadilac in not offering a V8 for their offering in this class. Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, and Infiniti are clearly not ready to give the V8 up yet, and the new Audi A6 will also gain a 4L turbo V8 model soon as well.
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Well, I think my 135i is a lighter car compared to 1M. Maybe because of its tires or wider susp, I don't know.
I went to BMW M Tour last month and drove 1M after M3 E92. Ok, 1M is 6MT, ligther, almost 80hp less than M3 and its faster too. The point is: I don't think 135i and 1M is feels heavy. I have one Alfa Romeo 145 and its 2734lbs. This is heavy for a 90's hatchback. M3 is heavy, but don't feel heavy. Ok, we need lighter cars and I think 3000lbs is the point to 1M and 3200 is top weight for M3.
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Just to add my two cents regarding the size complaints, I haven't fit comfortably in any 3 series before the current gen (at least since I stopped growing), and the main reason I fit into the current M3 coupe is the lack of a sunroof! Oh, glorious headroom!
I would love to drive many of the smaller/lighter options out there, and have been sorely disappointed on many occasions where I'd go to sit in one and couldn't even manage to fold myself into the cockpit (Porsche was the worst in this regard). It turns out I did end up with the lightest car out of all my choices being the M3, but it's all about perspective... |
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Porsche is good about being true to the weight mantra since they have a focused sense of product. The M3 has evolved from race car to GT car and gotten a little too luxurious for the traditionalists here. By the same token, would we step up and buy a stripped down car that weighed 400 lbs less? cloth interior, eliminate some of the electronic gadgetry?
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Thought I'd dig up this old post. Seems at least some of it is coming true from 2011.
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we can hope!
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Someone didn't get the memo about HP war ending to AMG. They are putting a twin turbo V8 in the next C63. And reports it is losing a lot of weight as well.
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