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12-08-2010, 03:33 PM | #1 |
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M3 vs. 1M : Let's talk performance
Okay, so we all have seen the new 1M video a few days before BMW's official reveal. We have some idea of what's under the hood, but this new 1M could be a game changer presenting itself as a less expensive, lighter and potential faster rival to the M3.
In some respects, it's apples-to-oranges given the differences in engine architecture, but it may split the market in high-performance lightweight BMW racers. All the money in the world, which of these two cars (the M3 or the 1M) would you choose and why? (Value-for-dollar responses please stay home.)
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Lol. Hey guys. I sharpened the question a bit. We're discussing M3 vs. 1M. Not just any cars.
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Oh and it kinda sucks that you can't even say M1...
But at least it will have low-end torque
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I'd be interested in the suspension and build. 335 is a pretty fine car, but loses out on suspension and drive train. 135 is already pretty fast, but noted for terrible understeer in turns. In my book the 1M will have to prove a lot before it challenges the M3. But then I have a new M3 so I'm biased.
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Back to the question regarding M3 vs. 1M...
my pros and cons are as follows: M3 pros: V8, sound, roominess, DCT, ZCP, EDC, hood hump and vents M3 cons: fuel efficiency, price 1M pros: lightweight, torque, fender design, price, low-tech nature 1M cons: functionally only a two-seater, turbo inline-6 Overall, I must also agree on a biased leaning toward the M3 as an all-around more evolved driving machine.
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From the reviews that are already online, they say the M3 is still faster and handles better than the 1M. So if money isnt a factor then M3 for me.
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Listed price as a factor, but not discussing "value." Wouldn't want to get into such analyses as dollar/BHP.
Regarding speed, I've heard conflicting news on that front. I would imagine that the 1M could give the M3 a run for its money stock to stock. Can anyone else speak to the speed comparison? I can just imagine all of the Motorweek and Car & Driver reviews dragging both cars into the camera shot.
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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=442490
Read up. Otherwise not much of us can comment on the speed as we havent driven it.
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I'm not being biased here since I own an M3, but stock VS stock, the M3 will defeat the 1M in the track performance wise.
However, modifying the 1M is another story... I will not choose between the two, but if I had a choice I will try to purchase a 1M and add it to my collection. Owning an M3 and 1M FTW! |
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Aside from one being N/A and one turbo, I don't see it that way at all. The size and weight of the 1 series is what most M3 enthusiasts wish the 3 series was at today and that's just being realistic. I'm sure many wish the m3 was under 3000lbs. There's now a lighter and potentially more enjoyable M car in the lineup. I know I enjoyed driving my 135i a lot more than my 335i. Until we get to drive the car, the 1m coupe's achilles heel is potentially the N54.
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My reason for getting an M3 over a 1M would simply be the engine. It seems like BMW is abandoning high revving NA engines for the time being and I think I'd like to own one in a DD while I still can. |
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Im sure BMW will make me eat my words once i drive it.
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but seriously, would any current m3 owner trade in their E9x for this (if they could only own 1car for ALL of their current driving needs)? don't get me wrong i think the 1m would make a "fun" second car, but it seems like most people are getting excited just because it is a new "m" offering (i'm actually more interested in the next m5, myself)... |
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