LCI E92's have arrived...

M3-FAST · 03-19-2010, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sheps

Anneka,

Has the M3 also been LCI'd yet?
Am I right thinking all new M3's get start/stop tech now?

Pretty sure it gets the LCi treatment also and yep, stop start tech is now featured!!!

Really can't see how it can work with a DCT box, as it is usually the depression of the clutch that kicks the engine in. I am guessing the engine won't stop unless the car is put into neutral? It will then automatically engage 'Park' - all this must then be 'undone' before the car can drive again. Doubt it is as seamless as the smaller engined manual 3'ers and pleased I don't have it!!!!

doughboy · 03-19-2010, 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xenon

Wheels are nice, the dumbo mirrors are horrid.

+1 - those daft eurocrats already ruined the E90/1 LCI, now they've done it to the coupe too.

Expensive, but would the pre-LCI mirror assembly still fit on the LCI door stub?

creepy coupe · 03-19-2010, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by themetz

Seriously glad they've finally sorted the paddle shifters out - never did make sense pushing and pulling!

Have to disagree, makes perfect sense to me, how can restricting one paddle to do one job be an advantage?

doughboy · 03-19-2010, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by M3-FAST

I am guessing the engine won't stop unless the car is put into neutral? It will then automatically engage 'Park' - all this must then be 'undone' before the car can drive again. Doubt it is as seamless as the smaller engined manual 3'ers and pleased I don't have it!!!!

In manual cars you have to be in neutral, so I gues it will be the same in the DCT? It would be up to the driver to put it in park though if they wished?

Or maybe stop start is not available in the DCT cars? Like its not available in regular auto's?

Have they intoduced stop/start on the 6cylinders too? That will be new also.

acerboo · 03-19-2010, 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Have to disagree, makes perfect sense to me, how can restricting one paddle to do one job be an advantage?

totally agree.

acerboo · 03-19-2010, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DrDurt

look pretty jacked up, even the sport is sittin high in the front

look at the last pic it says they are still on transport blocks

creepy coupe · 03-19-2010, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by acerboo

look at the last pic it says they are still on transport blocks

Let's hope so a.

mistry · 03-19-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Have to disagree, makes perfect sense to me, how can restricting one paddle to do one job be an advantage?

+1

I also have a GTi with a DSG box, much prefer the paddles on the BMW.

The new headlights look great, looking forward to seeing one in the flesh. I wonder if the rusty hub have been sorted for the 313s.

doughboy · 03-19-2010, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

Have to disagree, makes perfect sense to me, how can restricting one paddle to do one job be an advantage?

It's all about personal 'intuition', what seems daft to one person is perfect for another.

I suppose thay have to keep the majority happy!

Like Porsche PDK was slated due to its left = up, right = down, all the journo's said it was backwards (correct I think), now it's been changed to the 'correct' way.

Same with VAG DSG, having the manual stick as forward = up, backwards = down is backwards IMO. Causes no end of mis-shifts and one of the reasons I sold my ghastly A3 2.0T DSG.

BMW have it right with their stick shift at least, forward = down etc.

creepy coupe · 03-19-2010, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by doughboy

It's all about personal 'intuition', what seems daft to one person is perfect for another.

True. It just makes sense to me, you pull a manual stick back to go up a gear, so you flick a paddle back to do the same, Porsche PDK being opposite is only a problem for the driver, if you jump in and out of different cars, but one for up and the other for down, just seams plain wrong to me.

As you say, each to their own.

philreid · 03-19-2010, 04:25 AM

I'm not clear on what has changed with the paddles?

I'm sure they're mostly the same, but in mine there is a paddle on each side of the wheel, back one shifts the gear up, front (smaller) one shifts down a gear.

To me, the new headlights look a bit 'soft' like the 7 series and the new 5 series. Like the M Sport though, very nice.

mowflow · 03-19-2010, 04:46 AM

GOOD
M Sport front bumper
White lights

BAD
SE bumper jewelry (dare say people like my father in law will like it)
Light eyebrows (not as ghey as the Audi fairy lights but still ghey)
Giant wing mirrors
M Sport alloys (5 spokes are old school, too much open space for my liking)
LED tail lights (I always end up sat behind people with LED rear light when stuck in traffic and they are unnecessarily bright)

toxicnerve · 03-19-2010, 04:55 AM

Not sure about the wheels and the mirrors are grim.

Digging the new front and rear light clusters though...as others have said, would be interested to know if they would fit into a pre-LCI car.

toxicnerve · 03-19-2010, 06:50 AM

Question:

Do these LCI models have tweaked engines? Lower emissions etc?

creepy coupe · 03-19-2010, 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by toxicnerve

Question:

Do these LCI models have tweaked engines? Lower emissions etc?

They are slightly cleaner 196 kgs, but power outputs are the same, or at least the 335i is.

Irnbrukid · 03-19-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

True. It just makes sense to me, you pull a manual stick back to go up a gear, so you flick a paddle back to do the same, Porsche PDK being opposite is only a problem for the driver, if you jump in and out of different cars, but one for up and the other for down, just seams plain wrong to me.

As you say, each to their own.

You also push it forward to go up a gear 2nd > 3rd 4th > 5th.....

KAL M4 · 03-19-2010, 07:19 AM

Looks good.... impressed with the white halo...

Aneeka... are these bulbs going to be available for the non LCI's?

I've been looking at the after market hid upgrade for the halo but would rather keep it all OEM?

doughboy · 03-19-2010, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KAL 335D

Looks good.... impressed with the white halo...

Aneeka... are these bulbs going to be available for the non LCI's?

I've been looking at the after market hid upgrade for the halo but would rather keep it all OEM?

White halo's are gash IMO.

The subtle burning glow of incandescent bulbs in the current versions are much nicer and more 'suitable' IMO.

Horrid white LCDs are for spanked up chav mobiles......

doughboy · 03-19-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by creepy coupe

They are slightly cleaner 196 kgs, but power outputs are the same, or at least the 335i is.

Judging by the big emmissions drop and new EU5 compliance, the 335i coupe must be the new N55 engine instead of the past N54.

Now it has valvetronic and is throttleless for better emissions etc. (also different ECUs and all sorts)

That'll screw all the tuners for a while!!!

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/th...gine-7096.html

toxicnerve · 03-19-2010, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by doughboy

The subtle burning glow of incandescent bulbs in the current versions are much nicer and more 'subtle' IMO.

Corrected

G82Dude · 03-19-2010, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by doughboy

Judging by the big emmissions drop and new EU5 compliance, the 335i coupe must be the new N55 engine instead of the past N54.

Now it has valvetronic and is throttleless for better emissions etc. (also different ECUs and all sorts)

That'll screw all the tuners for a while!!!

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/th...gine-7096.html

So they have the new single turbo engine?

creepy coupe · 03-19-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Irnbrukid

You also push it forward to go up a gear 2nd > 3rd 4th > 5th.....

Not with a sequential box you don't, which is how you mind thinks of it.

03-19-2010, 04:25 AM	#33
philreid Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 214 Posts Drives: E90 325i M Sport Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Glasgow, UK iTrader: (0)	I'm not clear on what has changed with the paddles? I'm sure they're mostly the same, but in mine there is a paddle on each side of the wheel, back one shifts the gear up, front (smaller) one shifts down a gear. To me, the new headlights look a bit 'soft' like the 7 series and the new 5 series. Like the M Sport though, very nice.
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mowflow Colonel 62 Rep 2,472 Posts Drives: Golf 7R Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Glasgow iTrader: (2)	GOOD M Sport front bumper White lights BAD SE bumper jewelry (dare say people like my father in law will like it) Light eyebrows (not as ghey as the Audi fairy lights but still ghey) Giant wing mirrors M Sport alloys (5 spokes are old school, too much open space for my liking) LED tail lights (I always end up sat behind people with LED rear light when stuck in traffic and they are unnecessarily bright)
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03-19-2010, 04:55 AM	#35
toxicnerve Colonel 97 Rep 2,834 Posts Drives: E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	Not sure about the wheels and the mirrors are grim. Digging the new front and rear light clusters though...as others have said, would be interested to know if they would fit into a pre-LCI car.
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toxicnerve Colonel 97 Rep 2,834 Posts Drives: E92 335d M-Sport Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: UK iTrader: (2)	Question: Do these LCI models have tweaked engines? Lower emissions etc?
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03-19-2010, 07:19 AM	#39
KAL M4 First Lieutenant 34 Rep 323 Posts Drives: F82 M4 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: London iTrader: (5)	Looks good.... impressed with the white halo... Aneeka... are these bulbs going to be available for the non LCI's? I've been looking at the after market hid upgrade for the halo but would rather keep it all OEM?
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