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03-31-2007, 03:55 PM | #24 |
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Come on get real. I did not call YOU a single thing. I know nothing about you except quite a few good posts from you If the shoes fits put it on I guess! All I said was that SOME folks that will pull the trigger quickly (regardless of tranny choice) will be a certain type of person and those folks will piss me off. Cheers.
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04-02-2007, 03:48 AM | #28 | |
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the only person who is really immature about these tranny issues is you Nobody disses a transmission except you Yes i do think people who go 6 SPEED FOR LIFE is retarded but u just keep dissing thinking your very smart it shows everybody on the forum who is an idiot with logic
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04-02-2007, 11:42 AM | #29 | |
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04-02-2007, 05:11 PM | #30 |
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Look, guys, relax!!!!
I AM NOT CALLING ANYONE HERE A DORK. Can you please READ MY POSTS (apparently not...)?? I have only been critical of those folks who jump the bandwagon, get whatever is new and hot and are not really M enthusiasts. If you are an M enthusiast - the shoe does not fit so don´t bloody put it on!!! Personally I would choose ZSG>SMG>MT, but of course this is my choice. I do find it hard to believe that a real driver/enthusiast/performance seeker would choose MT but certainly to each their own. If you like to row your gears - go ahead, I´m sure you will have fun. But the driver of exact equal skill to you will have soooo much fun passing you in nearly all circumstances with a more advanced transmission. P.S. Thanks REP1KRR! Nice observation, couldn´t have said it better myself. |
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04-03-2007, 12:39 AM | #32 |
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I will opt for the "auto" M3, although I had a lot of fun tonight getting a perfect launch on my 6MT M Coupe! Very fun! I forgot I had it in me...
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04-03-2007, 04:12 AM | #33 | |
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Given a choice over SMGII or manual I would go manual every time based on personal experience with my E46 M3 CSL. What the new 'box will be like, I probably shan't know until my new manual M3 arrives, by which time it will be too late. |
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04-03-2007, 04:23 AM | #34 | |
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Some things add to the experince, others are just a PITA. I am involved with the changing of the grears, I just have a better interface to the device now |
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My point is this: You can still be an 'enthusiast' (it has an 'h') and opt for a manual 'box. Is it really that hard to understand? |
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There may be a cultural difference between UK and US here, it appears that in the US an auto gearbox is far more acceptable, whereas in the UK auto's have been typically disregarded by enthusiasts due to power loss from torque converters and disconnecting the driver from the driving experience. Admittedly autos are improving and continue to narrow the gap between manual and auto. |
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04-03-2007, 08:10 AM | #41 |
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[QUOTE=Woms;827722]So you find it hard to believe that enthusiasts wish to be involved, as much as possible, with every aspect of the car and it's parts, including the changing of gears? Driving a high performance car is not simply about speed, but the integration between operator and machine. This clearly is lost on you.
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04-03-2007, 08:27 AM | #42 | |
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I used to be a die-hard manual tranny guy, but SMG in the E46 M3 has won me over. Granted, at some point automation takes away from the experience. I do not think that taking away the clutch pedal crosses the line into too much automation for enthusiast driving. You still must modulate the throttle for smoothness, you still decide which gear to use. You can even keep that left foot involved by left foot braking! It is a great technique, especially on the track. |
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