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09-18-2011, 07:24 PM | #1 |
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Any other 1m dynos around?
So I have only see/heard of the one dyno done on the 1M that shows a controversial dyno that still is not clear whether its truly whp or engine hp. Anyone know of any independent dyno?
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09-19-2011, 05:43 PM | #2 |
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Wow this surprises me. All the tuners talking about how much hp they tuned the 1m for yet no dyno's of the thing stock or tuned aside from the one inside line or whatever it was?
Still no confirmation of what the whp numbers really are as the insideline was clearly a dyno graph showing calculated crank hp numbers. Similar to what BMW does when they release a dyno since its usually an engine dyno. |
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09-19-2011, 11:20 PM | #4 |
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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=559002 ESS http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=557030 DirectFlash Stage 1 : Top Speed Governor: Removed RPM Limit: 7200RPM Fuel requirement: 91US Horsepower: 400 DIN (Stock 335) - 390DIN if used with stock intercooler Torque: 550NM Normal whp range on DynoJet: 345-365whp |
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09-20-2011, 09:54 PM | #5 |
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Those are so painful to look at that severe drop hill in torque soooo early in the rev band. By all means if people want to drive a car with that power curve I say more power to them! Makes you realize why you pay more for the m3.
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09-21-2011, 11:08 AM | #7 | |
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09-21-2011, 11:34 PM | #8 |
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Wutang is for the children ! idk why i said that just first thing that came to mind M3 for the win, legacy
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09-22-2011, 04:11 PM | #10 |
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It is a different power curve, but not necessarily any more or less fun. At least one recent magazine test showed the 1M to be about equal to 60 and the quarter mile (110 mph) as the M3. More torque, same suspension and brakes but less weight -- the 1M has quite a bit of appeal. On a daily driver basis, the 1M's power is more accessible -- no need to wait until you are up around 6000 rpm where the M3 feels fast. I like my E90 M3 as a comfortable cruiser, but it is no rocket ship. You really have to work it hard to make it go fast.
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09-22-2011, 04:27 PM | #11 |
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^i agree with you, that's the fantastic part of factory tuned turbo cars. Power and usable torque on demand.
I was just commenting on how fun it is to take a high revving car up through the full rpm range. |
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09-22-2011, 11:28 PM | #12 | |
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I have no issue with the 1m's delivery...had two turbos before the m3. I just don't get the people that think you have to work when the car has about 5k rpms of flat torque. |
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09-23-2011, 11:02 AM | #13 |
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DSC_0014 by maahny, on Flickr DSC_0002 by maahny, on Flickr These cars have had no adaption as dyno runs have been done straight after flashing the evolve map in. They will smooth out and gain some more power as is normal with 135i's after they have had a chance to adapt to the tuning. The 1M is compatible with our evolve-R cable so you can load your original/tuned maps into the car as you please. We will have stage 2 tuning complete very soon. Supersprint have developed a turbo back system for us which will be ready for sale in 1 month. The inlet temperatures on these cars is quite high so they will benefit greatly from an FMIC - we have currently had our own one designed by the company that makes the OEM Konigsegg intercoolers and will be releasing it shortly. Example 1: Flywheel 1M by maahny, on Flickr Wheel 1MWHP by maahny, on Flickr Example 2: Flywheel 1Mflynick by maahny, on Flickr Wheel 1MWHPnick by maahny, on Flickr |
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09-23-2011, 01:43 PM | #14 |
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Paul@Evolve: very nice.
Question: do you have a handheld flash method for the 1M tune? And what hardware is required for a Stage 2 tune? Also, you might want to post these results in the 1M forum: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=307 |
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09-23-2011, 01:50 PM | #15 |
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thanks We will be posting up there today. Was hoping to get it back on the dyno to do post adapted runs but should just get it out there.
The tune comes with our evolve-R remote tuning unit. It is a cable that goes into your laptop and the OBD. Much like other systems, it reads out the stock file and writes in others. I'll post up a link to the thread once complete. Stage 2 requires hfc or cat delete, it comes complete with our incoming SS developed Evolve exhaust though an IC is recommended. ETA: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=589518 Last edited by Taz@Evolve. P; 09-23-2011 at 02:43 PM.. |
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09-24-2011, 04:56 AM | #16 |
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Stupid turbos an their easy horsepower gains
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09-24-2011, 10:07 AM | #17 |
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I guess this is just something I will not change my mind about. Alternatively I did not like the f10 m5 at first but it has grown on me v. this just has gotten less and less appealing.
Looking at those dyno's just make it all the more reason it is clear to me that owning that car is taking the 335 engine with a tune and slapping it in the car. I do not doubt its as fast as the m3, handles as well or better and gets better gas mileage but the entire point of the enjoyment of the m3 is that you are driving something special and unique. The engine dynamics is 75 percent of the fun of the car. Knowing your engine has a hp curve like an F1 car (on a very scaled down version). Having to keep your hand on the paddles or shifter and shift a lot just like F1 guys. Hearing the throttle blips at frequent downshifts. Hearing the screaming engine while you keep it above 6500 and in and out of 2nd and 3rd, listening to it scream constantly. For decades there is something faster you can buy than the M cars but the whole reason is the M cars had something unique and special, not that they were necessarily faster. Again I believe the 1m is as fast or faster but to most I do not think that matters as much as the fun/unique factor |
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09-27-2011, 11:22 PM | #18 |
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Doesn't the M3 usually trap 114 and do "0-60" (useless metric that it is) in 3.9-4.1 secs? Same mag, same driver, same day?
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That said, the M3 will typically have a higher trap speed than the 1M, essentially meaning that if you're out on the highway in your M3 and come across a stock 1M, not to worry. You're covered. It's at lower speeds where the 1M's torque makes it an overachiever. Bruce |
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By the way we have a very different definition of hard work. What an absolute delight the S65 is above 6k, I try to get there as often as possible.
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Anyone with a M3 (myself included as I got my M3 around the same time as 1M's came out) can afford one. I got my M3 mostly because I want a compact high-revving racy V8 in a car that (is not bad to look at - subjective I know) can do it all even though I also have a 335i - so I know the 1M's motor intimately. To me, the 1M is an uglier, less pure version of my prior Z4MC. JMHO. Omar
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09-29-2011, 05:04 PM | #22 |
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Agree. What other affordable, racy, high-revving V8 this side of an old Ferrari / Maso can one get? The sound is also unique, nothing like other V8's.
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