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      01-29-2013, 08:36 PM   #199
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LOL, you can read right? Trying searching the forum on what the projected plan is for the new M4. This information is brought to us by BMW insiders and some interviews with BMW ///M staff.
The denial is strong with the doubters
Whats projected and what really is, are two different things. When I see it with my own eyes that the new M whatever weighs less then the current model, them I will believe it. Until then, BMW has given us every reason to believe that it will weigh more. Their cars are over weight and bloated. Dont drink too much koolaid.
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Whats projected and what really is, are two different things. When I see it with my own eyes that the new M whatever weighs less then the current model, them I will believe it. Until then, BMW has given us every reason to believe that it will weigh more. Their cars are over weight and bloated. Dont drink too much koolaid.
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      01-29-2013, 08:58 PM   #201
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Exactly. The denial is strong with the fanbois.
how am i in denial im saying the same thing as you?
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      01-29-2013, 09:02 PM   #202
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how am i in denial im saying the same thing as you?
Not you! I was talking about the other one saying the weight will be lower on the new M3/4 then the current one
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Not you! I was talking about the other one saying the weight will be lower on the new M3/4 then the current one
okay you quoted me. i am a fanboy but as much for other brands as ours.
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If you compare the e90 vs the f30, the f30 is supposed to be 88lbs lighter, but actual numbers don't show that much weight loss.

Searching the forums, you can find 6mt e90 335s on a scale weighing very close to 3700lbs. With the M3 weighing more than the 335, I wouldn't be surprised to see the larger F80 M3 with DCT and all the creature comforts to have similar weight as the current model.

Like everyone else, I want lighter, but would be content with no weight gain.

oh and diavel
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      01-30-2013, 02:33 PM   #205
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I love the new vette.

I'd love to pick one up when they're ~2 years old - after the 'new edition' mark-ups are over, and the used ones de-valued a bit.
Used corvettes have usually been a super good deal.

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      01-30-2013, 09:46 PM   #206
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I think you'll forget all about porsche once you drive the C7.
Oh please.

Right now it's just some pictures and numbers. I drove the C6 to see if it would take me out of the M and didn't like it as much, talking just as a driver's car. Z06 this and ZR1 other, all of a sudden we are talking $70-80-100k and beyond, and at that level I'd personally rather have a 997.2S, or GT3. Hell, I'm more excited about the new Cayman.

So let's all rejoice that the C7 looks promising from all sorts of angles, and thank God they've finally fixed the interior, but let's not exaggerate prematurely.

Unless you've already driven it?
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      01-30-2013, 11:02 PM   #207
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Oh please.

Right now it's just some pictures and numbers. I drove the C6 to see if it would take me out of the M and didn't like it as much, talking just as a driver's car. Z06 this and ZR1 other, all of a sudden we are talking $70-80-100k and beyond, and at that level I'd personally rather have a 997.2S, or GT3. Hell, I'm more excited about the new Cayman.

So let's all rejoice that the C7 looks promising from all sorts of angles, and thank God they've finally fixed the interior, but let's not exaggerate prematurely.

Unless you've already driven it?
Thats fine. Have fun with your porschas and I'll have fun with my vettes.
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      01-31-2013, 08:17 AM   #208
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Thats fine. Have fun with your porschas and I'll have fun with my vettes.
Nothing wrong with that. I just wish you'd stop pushing them like they're the greatest thing on earth since, well, the wheel probably. It's a bit grating, especially on an elitist bimmer forum.
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Nothing wrong with that. I just wish you'd stop pushing them like they're the greatest thing on earth since, well, the wheel probably. It's a bit grating, especially on an elitist bimmer forum.
Well, when you have so many BMW fanbois that think the 911 is the greatest thing since pussy, then I gotta say something. Lets stay on track with the thread.

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Nothing wrong with that. I just wish you'd stop pushing them like they're the greatest thing on earth since, well, the wheel probably. It's a bit grating, especially on an elitist bimmer forum.
Some of us like slow cars(E9X owners) and some of us love fast cars, nothing wrong with that too
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Some of us like slow cars(E9X owners) and some of us love fast cars, nothing wrong with that too
So what are you doing over here, come to flaunt the fastness of your car? Wouldn't you be better off mingling with the other fast car lovers? You know, swapping stories about how you dusted so many slow bimmers...
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      01-31-2013, 06:21 PM   #212
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Well, when you have so many BMW fanbois that think the 911 is the greatest thing since pussy, then I gotta say something.
Well wouldn't those technically be Porsche fanboys? In any case, I don't think Corvette fanboys are in any way superior.
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So what are you doing over here, come to flaunt the fastness of your car? Wouldn't you be better off mingling with the other fast car lovers? You know, swapping stories about how you dusted so many slow bimmers...
He's here being the defensive guy in every corvette thread. Don't mind him
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Fanboism at its worst -smh-
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Probably old news to some, but was reading a motortrend that said, "Chevy rejected a twin-turbo V-6 because while it delivered on power, it didn't improve fuel economy."

Chevy does have that cylinder deactivation with the V8, but interesting when compared to the M3's engine downsizing.
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I'm glad they rejected a TT V6. I would never buy one if they did use it. No V8, No buy.
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here is a funny story that is sure to get a smirk or two:

3 Years ago, I took the M-school and had some good fun. They have the instructors sit with you at lunch to talk about this and that. All great PR for BMW. Lots of talk of how much weight was saved on the M6 with the CF roof.

So, I asked on of the lead guys why they had 3 brand new Z06 Vettes out in the back lot. I wanted to know if they benchmarked the BMW with the Vettes...

His answer got me laughing.

He said (in a low, hushed tone), "No, those are the instructor's personal cars."

LOL! Within a few minutes, I had the table talking Vettes instead of M5/M6s!

Not saying anything is better/worse....but still a "telling" story.
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here is a funny story that is sure to get a smirk or two:

3 Years ago, I took the M-school and had some good fun. They have the instructors sit with you at lunch to talk about this and that. All great PR for BMW. Lots of talk of how much weight was saved on the M6 with the CF roof.

So, I asked on of the lead guys why they had 3 brand new Z06 Vettes out in the back lot. I wanted to know if they benchmarked the BMW with the Vettes...

His answer got me laughing.

He said (in a low, hushed tone), "No, those are the instructor's personal cars."

LOL! Within a few minutes, I had the table talking Vettes instead of M5/M6s!

Not saying anything is better/worse....but still a "telling" story.
Well, the reality is that a Z06 is a much better track car than any M. It doesn't surprise me that driving instructors would pick that car. It would take a lot of work to get an M3, M5, M6 up to the same level as a Z06 for track duties. Weight being the biggest issue... then brakes... then suspension...

The beauty of the M cars is the dual purpose nature. A Corvette Z06 is undeniably the better performance car but no back seat, no trunk, limited daily practicality makes it less than an ideal DD. For a weekend toy and frequent track duty, the Z06 is hard to beat dollar for dollar. If you want to drive a car to and form the office with the occasional track weekend, that is where the M3 is great.

I like to see that the BMW instructors were true enthusiasts who pick their personal cars based on what they prefer for their needs and not based on brand.
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here is a funny story that is sure to get a smirk or two:

3 Years ago, I took the M-school and had some good fun. They have the instructors sit with you at lunch to talk about this and that. All great PR for BMW. Lots of talk of how much weight was saved on the M6 with the CF roof.

So, I asked on of the lead guys why they had 3 brand new Z06 Vettes out in the back lot. I wanted to know if they benchmarked the BMW with the Vettes...

His answer got me laughing.

He said (in a low, hushed tone), "No, those are the instructor's personal cars."

LOL! Within a few minutes, I had the table talking Vettes instead of M5/M6s!

Not saying anything is better/worse....but still a "telling" story.
Those instructors have taste
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