Aftermarket exhaust and the DAILY Driver

MNm3 · 04-20-2010, 11:03 AM

Dilema here. I want aftermarket exhaust but I think the Eisenmann sport and the Dinan are a little on the quiet side... doesn't really get the juices flowing much more than stock...while the Eisenmann race or AA (without going too loud) definitely do the trick.

My M3 is my daily driver, if it wasn't I'd probably just put pipes straight off the head...

... but getting serious, I have some questions that need opinion or answers:

With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions?
Dinan has a 20% off sale on all products, including exhaust making the price attractive. What are people's opinions about that system?
Does adding connecting pipes add any volume, ex: Eisenmann sport with connecting pipes, is it louder than just the sport with stock pipes?...Dumb Question? I don't know.

I've heard and looked at all the video comparisons, but as we all know, a video doesn't always do an exhaust system justice one way or the other.

Any feedback on the above would be great. Thanks

DevJ · 04-20-2010, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MNm3

Dilema here. I want aftermarket exhaust but I think the Eisenmann sport and the Dinan are a little on the quiet side... doesn't really get the juices flowing much more than stock...while the Eisenmann race or AA (without going too loud) definitely do the trick.

My M3 is my daily driver, if it wasn't I'd probably just put pipes straight off the head...

... but getting serious, I have some questions that need opinion or answers:

With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions? Yes, but some people think that these exhausts are too much for a daily drivers, others don't
Dinan has a 20% off sale on all products, including exhaust making the price attractive. What are people's opinions about that system? Dinan makes a great exhaust system, but they have a tendency to mark up prices when they offer these 20% incentives and sometimes they fail to deliver the exhaust in a timely manner..as PunjabiM3
Does adding connecting pipes add any volume, ex: Eisenmann sport with connecting pipes, is it louder than just the sport with stock pipes?...Dumb Question? I don't know. Adding connecting pipes doesn't increase volume.

I've heard and looked at all the video comparisons, but as we all know, a video doesn't always do an exhaust system justice one way or the other.

Any feedback on the above would be great. Thanks

You're best bet is to post in the regional section and ask people around your area if they have aftermarket exhausts. Good luck!

MNm3 · 04-20-2010, 11:15 AM

[QUOTE=DevJ;7160295]With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions? Yes, but some people think that these exhausts are too much for a daily drivers, others don't QUOTE]

Thanks for your input. With the above, yes I agree. But simply from an operational standpoint, do the features still work... and how well compared to with stock exhaust. I see how this seems like an opinion question, I didn't mean for it to be.

I've posted on a regional forum... There's a large car meet coming up soon and hoping to get some more info there too.

mfeltiii · 04-20-2010, 11:22 AM

You will not have any problem using the bluetooth with either the dinan or AA catback alone. I have no knowledge of the eisenmann race set-up. I don't use the voice commands so not sure about that.

J08M3 · 04-20-2010, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MNm3

Dilema here. I want aftermarket exhaust but I think the Eisenmann sport and the Dinan are a little on the quiet side... doesn't really get the juices flowing much more than stock...while the Eisenmann race or AA (without going too loud) definitely do the trick.

My M3 is my daily driver, if it wasn't I'd probably just put pipes straight off the head...

... but getting serious, I have some questions that need opinion or answers:

With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions?
Dinan has a 20% off sale on all products, including exhaust making the price attractive. What are people's opinions about that system?
Does adding connecting pipes add any volume, ex: Eisenmann sport with connecting pipes, is it louder than just the sport with stock pipes?...Dumb Question? I don't know.

I've heard and looked at all the video comparisons, but as we all know, a video doesn't always do an exhaust system justice one way or the other.

Any feedback on the above would be great. Thanks

I got an AA I'm selling if you decide to choose that route send me a PM for details

M3_LIN · 04-20-2010, 11:28 AM

Meistershaft GTC system. With the valves closed on this exhaust, it sounds like a stock system. With valves open, its WOW.....

Ed Lin

MNm3 · 04-20-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by M3_LIN

Meistershaft GTC system. With the valves closed on this exhaust, it sounds like a stock system. With valves open, its WOW.....

Ed Lin

How much? $$$ Looks expensive... Website where they're sold?

Suprane · 04-20-2010, 08:35 PM

I had the same concerns. My thought for going with Eisenmann Sport was if I felt it was not loud enough, I can always get an X-pipe. (Vs having to sell it and get the race). So far I'm pretty happy with it but I'd be lying if I said I havn't thought about making it louder at times.
Dev's right though. The best is to listen to it in person (if you can). If I get an X-pipe, I definitely want to check it out in person before I commit. Good luck.

808E90 · 04-20-2010, 08:49 PM

I've got a Arqray Ti system that was perfect in sound (for me) ... I need to sell it so let me know cause I'll let it go for cheap!!

Cab5er · 04-20-2010, 10:09 PM

Dinan FTW! I must be getting old

Fen335i · 04-20-2010, 10:42 PM

Dinan!

If you ever want to increase your hp/tq output via HFC's/xipe, then you'll want a quieter rear section...otherwise if you add a loud rear section with HFC/xpipe...you're going to be so loud you won't be able to hear yourself think...however, some really like that kind of thing. So, to each his own...

saeedg48 · 04-20-2010, 10:44 PM

Eisnmann Sport or Akrapavik

aus · 04-20-2010, 10:57 PM

Why not just get a resonated X-pipe or even non resonated with HFC? More power, more noise and no drone... per people who have done it.

albert1028 · 04-21-2010, 01:31 AM

You should look at vanguard exhaust too! It has a nice sound and is titanium.

moog55 · 04-21-2010, 01:50 AM

eisenmann race.

MrHarris · 04-21-2010, 04:05 AM

I just put on my Dinan paired with the gintani x-pipe and I have to say it is much louder than what I was expecting.

Georgeair · 04-21-2010, 07:54 AM

ER and my bluetooth work just fine together at normal driving speeds. I was talking with a coworker once while blasting down a rural backroad once however, and he asked if I was really raising that much hell or just watching a movie though.....

M3_LIN · 04-21-2010, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by MNm3

How much? $$$ Looks expensive... Website where they're sold?

Gotta pay to play IMO.

This is GT HAUS' website so you know the pricing: http://gthaus.com/ehselect.php

I think Status Autoworks can get you a good deal on them since they are the first ones to get the first production piece on the GTC.

Here's another member that got his: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377422

Ed Lin

MNm3 · 04-21-2010, 11:23 AM

Thanks for all the input everyone.

There's so many good exhausts out there, now I just need to go hear them for myself. At least now I have a better direction though. I'm still leaning Eisenmann Race I think; just love the sound of that thing.

saeedg48 · 04-21-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrHarris

I just put on my Dinan paired with the gintani x-pipe and I have to say it is much louder than what I was expecting.

that's a nice combo

eclipsisNA · 04-21-2010, 11:40 AM

I don't have any Bluetooth issues with my Eisenmann Race/Riss Racing mid-pipe setup.

attila · 04-21-2010, 12:29 PM

There are nearly as many opinions here regarding exhaust as forum members.

I had a similar dilemma about the AA signature exhaust than you have. I wanted more "noise" on the track but not in the hospital parking garage. I use the M3 as my DD from March to November. The AA rear section on it's own is not loud at all. Around 3-5000rpm it is like stock. It is so not loud that now I consider the AA X-pipe with cats.

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MNm3 Lieutenant 68 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 2009 Le Mans Blue e90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	Aftermarket exhaust and the DAILY Driver Dilema here. I want aftermarket exhaust but I think the Eisenmann sport and the Dinan are a little on the quiet side... doesn't really get the juices flowing much more than stock...while the Eisenmann race or AA (without going too loud) definitely do the trick. My M3 is my daily driver, if it wasn't I'd probably just put pipes straight off the head... ... but getting serious, I have some questions that need opinion or answers: With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions? Dinan has a 20% off sale on all products, including exhaust making the price attractive. What are people's opinions about that system? Does adding connecting pipes add any volume, ex: Eisenmann sport with connecting pipes, is it louder than just the sport with stock pipes?...Dumb Question? I don't know. I've heard and looked at all the video comparisons, but as we all know, a video doesn't always do an exhaust system justice one way or the other. Any feedback on the above would be great. Thanks
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MNm3 Lieutenant 68 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 2009 Le Mans Blue e90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	[QUOTE=DevJ;7160295]With Einsenmann Race or AA, can one still utilize the bluetooth and/or voice command features without too much interference from the exhaust sound under normal driving conditions? Yes, but some people think that these exhausts are too much for a daily drivers, others don't QUOTE] Thanks for your input. With the above, yes I agree. But simply from an operational standpoint, do the features still work... and how well compared to with stock exhaust. I see how this seems like an opinion question, I didn't mean for it to be. I've posted on a regional forum... There's a large car meet coming up soon and hoping to get some more info there too.
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mfeltiii Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 262 Posts Drives: '10 AW E92 6mt Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: S. FLA iTrader: (1)	You will not have any problem using the bluetooth with either the dinan or AA catback alone. I have no knowledge of the eisenmann race set-up. I don't use the voice commands so not sure about that.
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M3_LIN LM-R Whore. 125 Rep 854 Posts Drives: 2009 White M3 Sedan Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: LA iTrader: (1)	Meistershaft GTC system. With the valves closed on this exhaust, it sounds like a stock system. With valves open, its WOW..... Ed Lin __________________ 09AWE90M: Light headlight tint, Full front end clear bra wrap(Harris@InstyleGraphics), Ceramic tint(40%), Piaa GTX H3 bulb, HID 8k AE, 6k Low, INT Luxer1 lights, RD springs, LMR 20X9 +8, 20X10 +18 (Dave @ Status), Vertice CF hood Ducts(Dat @ VertexUSA), Tecnocraft FULL Envy Intake system+plenum(KEVLAR)+cabin filter covers, Meister GTC exhaust, Arkym F LIP.
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Suprane Second Lieutenant 4 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 09 M3 E90 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Big D iTrader: (0)	I had the same concerns. My thought for going with Eisenmann Sport was if I felt it was not loud enough, I can always get an X-pipe. (Vs having to sell it and get the race). So far I'm pretty happy with it but I'd be lying if I said I havn't thought about making it louder at times. Dev's right though. The best is to listen to it in person (if you can). If I get an X-pipe, I definitely want to check it out in person before I commit. Good luck. __________________ 09 E90 M3 DCT SSII Carbon Blk, Eisenmann Sport, RAC 19"RG63 on 255/275 UltracS, Dark Sidemkrs/Reflectrs/Grills, BMC Filter, LUX H8 V3 LEDs, V1 H/W, Ultimate Pedals & 30% Tint
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808E90 808E90 231 Rep 4,047 Posts Drives: E90 ///M Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Aloha State iTrader: (21)	I've got a Arqray Ti system that was perfect in sound (for me) ... I need to sell it so let me know cause I'll let it go for cheap!! __________________ LTMW FTL . Karbonwerks LCI Trunk . Vorsteiner Poly Front Lip . NA Motorsports LUX H8 . RECARO Pole Position Seats . BMW Performance Pedals . BMW Performance Performance Grills . BMW Painted Fender Grills . BBS 19x9.5 19x11 LMs . Michelin PS2 265/295 . H&R Sport Springs . Wheel Mate 45/55MM Stud Kit . BBS Red Lug Nuts . ESS VT1 Supercharger . Akrapovic GT4 Exhaust
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Cab5er Colonel 79 Rep 2,339 Posts Drives: 09 E90 M3 (Sold) 13 A1 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Fremont, Hainan iTrader: (22)	Dinan FTW! I must be getting old __________________ E90 ///M3/ AW/ Fox Red
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Fen335i Captain 107 Rep 805 Posts Drives: e92 M3 / X5d / Z4 M Roadster Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pacific Northwest iTrader: (0)	Dinan! If you ever want to increase your hp/tq output via HFC's/xipe, then you'll want a quieter rear section...otherwise if you add a loud rear section with HFC/xpipe...you're going to be so loud you won't be able to hear yourself think...however, some really like that kind of thing. So, to each his own...
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saeedg48 Brigadier General 342 Rep 3,574 Posts Drives: Porsche 991.1 GT3 Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Newport Beach, CA iTrader: (1)	Eisnmann Sport or Akrapavik __________________ 2015 Porsche 991.1 GT3 2015 F80 M3 -- Individual; Space Grey
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aus Major General 890 Rep 9,031 Posts Drives: Odysse Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA iTrader: (10)	Why not just get a resonated X-pipe or even non resonated with HFC? More power, more noise and no drone... per people who have done it. __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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albert1028 First Lieutenant 20 Rep 390 Posts Drives: 2009 E90 Space Gray M3 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0)	You should look at vanguard exhaust too! It has a nice sound and is titanium.
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moog55 Major 55 Rep 1,113 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	eisenmann race.
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MrHarris yodog 197 Rep 5,026 Posts Drives: '86 Corolla Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Diamond Bar, Ca iTrader: (5) Garage List 2009 BMW [10.00]	I just put on my Dinan paired with the gintani x-pipe and I have to say it is much louder than what I was expecting. __________________ 2009 E92 M3 \| Alpine White \| Black Extended \| Advan RS \| Turner Test Pipes \| Dinan Axle-Back \| OETuning \| Eibach Springs \| UUC SSK \| VRS Front Lip \| VRS Type I Diffuser \| Matte Black \| RPi Scoops \| MS Filter \| Yokohama AD08 \| F1 Pinnacle Special Thanks: Gintani \| OETuning \| eAs
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Georgeair Captain 80 Rep 803 Posts Drives: '08 Melbourne E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madison, MS iTrader: (2)	ER and my bluetooth work just fine together at normal driving speeds. I was talking with a coworker once while blasting down a rural backroad once however, and he asked if I was really raising that much hell or just watching a movie though..... __________________ Objects in mirror are slower than they appear.
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MNm3 Lieutenant 68 Rep 531 Posts Drives: 2009 Le Mans Blue e90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (0)	Thanks for all the input everyone. There's so many good exhausts out there, now I just need to go hear them for myself. At least now I have a better direction though. I'm still leaning Eisenmann Race I think; just love the sound of that thing. __________________ Gone but not forgotten...2009 E90 Le Mans Blue M3 6MT De-Chromed, Rogue SSK, Brembo BBK, Eibach Pro Kit, Eisenmann Race Black, MS Filter. 1998.5 Titanium Silver E36 M3 Coupe NASA GTS2 Race Car.
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eclipsisNA Colonel 348 Rep 2,937 Posts Drives: 2013 Estoril 328i M Sport Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beverly Hills, CA iTrader: (6) Garage List 2014 BMW 428i [7.76]	I don't have any Bluetooth issues with my Eisenmann Race/Riss Racing mid-pipe setup.
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attila Captain 83 Rep 629 Posts Drives: 2015 Mclaren 650s, 2015 GTS4, Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Omaha, NE iTrader: (0)	There are nearly as many opinions here regarding exhaust as forum members. I had a similar dilemma about the AA signature exhaust than you have. I wanted more "noise" on the track but not in the hospital parking garage. I use the M3 as my DD from March to November. The AA rear section on it's own is not loud at all. Around 3-5000rpm it is like stock. It is so not loud that now I consider the AA X-pipe with cats.
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