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08-28-2010, 11:16 AM | #23 | |
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08-28-2010, 11:22 AM | #24 | |
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Thanks south - I hadn't seen BF's report. That's unfortunate, especially when they already offer a DCT in the 135i. I guess we will have to wait for the next generation 1M to get M-DCT.
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08-28-2010, 11:42 AM | #25 |
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I just don't see the point of this car. It's not that light (3400 is still pretty heavy)... its essentially a boosted N54, and they slapped on some M3 suspension bits and think it now compares to an old e30M3.. get real
I had an e30 M3, it weighed 2700 lbs, was NA power and handled like a dream. Also, what's with all the N54/N55 derivatives anyways? you have the the Z435is, 335is, 335i, 135i, and now this 1M...? Has the M Marketing dept gone crazy? |
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Seriously though, all these derivates is a complete joke! How many derivatives were there for the NA E46 and E92 M3? |
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08-28-2010, 12:25 PM | #27 | |
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pros of the 1M: - will be cheaper then the M3 - lighter (by 200lbs. I know, not so big but still its 200lbs) - will be as quick as the M3, but not as fast on higher speeds - will have ability to be tuned (basically its a BMW tuned 135i with parts/pieces and a computer engine upgrade) - good for peeps who don't want to buy the M3, which technically is the lowest hanging M car sold by BMW cons of the 1M: - gonna be expensive for what it is (if the 335is fully loaded is 59k, what will this thing cost?) - Its basically using the N54 engine, which is going to come with the same problems all N54 cars have - ie HPFP - You can buy a used 135i, mod it, spend less money and get the same amount of performance (minus the cool suspension stuff and quad exhaust the 1M will have) - FI < NA As a current M3 owner, I wouldn't buy the 1M. If I still didn't have the M3, I probably still wouldn't still buy the 1M. For what I think they will sell it for, it makes not sense to me. Too many other great cars (ie M3, Cayman S) that can be hand at that price. Again, I am interested to see what its performance levels are and what people will say about it once it comes to the market. But I'm sort of feeling its like the 335is but in the 1-series footprint....good car, but if its close to price of the M3, why not just get the M3? |
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08-28-2010, 01:18 PM | #29 |
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What will it cost? I suppose we'll have to wait and see. It's hard to believe that it will be near the 335is cost since that's getting close to M3 price. I'm hoping the suspension bits will really transform how the car feels. But losing weight would probably do more to make the car feel sportier than all the trick suspension parts, IMO.
I really can't see an M3 owner getting one of these unless it were so much lighter that it would really be a better weekend toy. It is more for those who want the sportiness of the M3 but don't want to spend the money for the luxury, amenities, size and practicality. Although, it seems the price may still be too high for most people. Cheers.
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LOVE the look, including the regular 1 in person. If I was about 3 years younger with no plans to have kids soon (23-24) I'd definitely consider it
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Why do they put the M on everything?
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08-28-2010, 07:06 PM | #33 |
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i dont mind as addition, but not a trade for my current m3. i like my NA V8. thank you very much.
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In the case of this car, I expect it will be completely deserving of the M badge, so no worries here
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Hey guys I have a 2010 135i and have had a TON OF PROBLEMS.. Today I went to the dealer again and they asked my if I was going to upgrade to the 1M... First of all I just got my car... And why on Gods green earth would I buy another car that has a ton of problems... I was thinking when the 135i Died and I finished college (1 and a half years left till my Finance Degree) I might want a new M3... Are there a lot of problems with it???
My car is 5 months and has had 3 recalls and the car has been in service for the dash caving in, pop under passenger side air bag, stereo, radio, I pod, tail lights, the fire issue, loose exhaust, and windows not going up..
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Imploding dash? Three recalls? Wow. There were some teething problems with the DCT software (now eliminated) and the idle-valve issue which was an easy fix (haven't seen this issue in a long time, may be 08 specific); and some 08s with a possible bearing issue, but that remains to be seen. That's "full disclosure" and all and all the M3 has been solid. Not the wellspring of problems the N54 comes with (HPFP being foremost there). |
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Apparently in the pillars of the car, BMW put foam by the area where the seatbelt is grabbed in an accident and the friction causes the foam to catch fire...
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I have had recalls for the HPFP, Taillights and the Fire issue..
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And to answer the thread's question, I could bet cash money no M3 owner would switch. Take care gang. Last edited by JCtx; 08-28-2010 at 08:55 PM.. |
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On our 128i I can see the outline of the passenger side airbag. It seems to have gotten more pronounced with being exposed to heat while parked outside at work during the summer.
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there is no getting the fat out of the fat cat...nope would never consider it, but i would definitely like to drive one
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It gets hot a lot of places. AZ. SoCal. Central Valley in CA. Oz. So pretty bad testing and design on both that and the firestarter foam I'd say. |
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