Only 4.7 sec to 60mph on BMW site....

brupaul22 · 02-20-2008, 07:39 AM

This can't be accurate. The last M3 did it in 4.8. I know there's always all different tests for these and its been discussed before but does anyone know what the accurate time to 60 is?
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx

murellus · 02-20-2008, 07:51 AM

bmw consistently understates performance figures

i think fastest so far reported is 4.1, but the average is around 4.3-4.4

Stahlgrau · 02-20-2008, 07:52 AM

This horse has been beaten to death. BMW understates their "official" 0-60 time. Their "official" time for the E46 M3 was 5.1secs. There are many magazines that have done much better than 4.7 secs. I believe one even hit 4.1 or 4.2. Either C&D or R&T.

GregW / Oregon · 02-20-2008, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stahlgrau

This horse has been beaten to death. BMW understates their "official" 0-60 time. Their "official" time for the E46 M3 was 5.1secs.

I remember it being that when it first came out, but they did revise it to 4.8 later on the website. Maybe this one will come down over time. Definitely conservative. and "achievable" by almost anyone.

GT3 Tim · 02-20-2008, 09:35 AM

Most do underestimate....those that don't (aka the Ford fiasco with the rated hp figures) pay the price.

GT3 Tim · 02-20-2008, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by murellus

bmw consistently understates performance figures

i think fastest so far reported is 4.1, but the average is around 4.3-4.4

That is good to know. I am considering replacing my car and was hoping the M3 would be in the low 4's. Looks like it is right there!

RandyB · 02-20-2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GT3 Tim

That is good to know. I am considering replacing my car and was hoping the M3 would be in the low 4's. Looks like it is right there!

Is that pretty close to 996 GT3 range? Nice car, BTW!

mkoesel · 02-20-2008, 10:24 AM

International press material said (and still says I think) 4.8s, so its actually lower than I expected BMWUSA to set it.

cosmos515 · 02-20-2008, 10:36 AM

This is not a 0-60 car. The 996 GT3 was not a 0-60 car. The new M3 with its V8 is more of a mid-range small GT car with great handling.

///M3 · 02-20-2008, 02:00 PM

True, but it doesn't hurt that it can accelerate to 60 in almost 4 seconds flat!

GT3 Tim · 02-20-2008, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RandyB

Is that pretty close to 996 GT3 range? Nice car, BTW!

Yeah, it is close...closer than I thought...which is awesome!

The best I have seen printed was 3.9. Most mags put it 4.1 - 4.3. Depends on the driver, conditions, etc, etc, etc.

If the M is in the mid 4'ish range, I would be happy. Plus, with mods, etc. etc., and DCT, one could get that down even more. :-)

Ah, also, I have seen my car at 11.9 in the 1/4 mile, but most mags are about 12.1.

It aint that I drag race the car, its just for comparisons sake. I used to be a track rat...but have not had the time for it. Hell, last year I did not go one time....the year before that I was instructing and attending track days ALL THE TIME....times change I guess.

JEllis · 02-20-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by brupaul22

This can't be accurate. The last M3 did it in 4.8. I know there's always all different tests for these and its been discussed before but does anyone know what the accurate time to 60 is?
http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Conte...fications.aspx

Yes, the BMW official time for the E46 M was 5.2 vs. official time for the E92 M of 4.7....

Jason

GregW / Oregon · 02-20-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GT3 Tim

I used to be a track rat...but have not had the time for it. Hell, last year I did not go one time....the year before that I was instructing and attending track days ALL THE TIME....times change I guess.

Must have had kids?

Welcome to the forum.

devo · 02-21-2008, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Laszlo

The e92 335i does not do 0-60 in 4.7 seconds. Try 5.3 or something closer to that. Car was terribly overrated when it came out. Now, with the Dinan mod sure, it's doing 4.7 or so. But lets not kid ourselves.

You're right, the car does not run a 4.7, however BMW never claimed that it did. The 335 is hardly overrated, if anything, it's underrated, since they routinely dyno much higher than advertised. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that a 335 is in the same league as an M.

schnell325 · 02-21-2008, 12:42 PM

0-60 is nice, but 60-120 is nicer. (Or 60-155)

spearfisher · 02-21-2008, 12:56 PM

yeah just like the BMW website have the 335 0-60
5.3 manual
5.5 auto

and we know the clock 4.9 0-60 stock and the auto is faster than the stick

BMW is always conservative with the times, I'm sure the M3 will be faster than what's posted

Hammer · 02-21-2008, 03:10 PM

Hmmm ?

All these numbers sound great, but never same them real...

i had 5,9sec 0-100kmh ( 0 -62mph) on a 335i with automatic ( i guess, there is no realy difference caused by the driverskill and the conditions were good: about 20 c° and dry climate).

i still cant belive something like 4.1sec for the m3 in 0-60mph. 4,7 sounds optimistic, but 4,1-4,5 ... ? Thats the level of a 997gt3...

What means "good" conditions to you?

mkoesel · 02-21-2008, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by devo

You're right, the car does not run a 4.7, however BMW never claimed that it did.

True. Best mag time I know of is 4.8s. Contrast that with the best M3 mag time of 4.1s I believe. And official times for the two are 4.7s and 5.3s of course. So they are still a good distance apart, even though the best 335i 0-60 times do overlap a bit with the worst M3 0-60 times. On the other hand, they are close enough together that a good 335i driver could catch you off guard if you are not able to launch. A good reason to learn to launch the car well. That, or just don't street race.

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The 335 is hardly overrated, if anything, it's underrated, since they routinely dyno much higher than advertised. Don't get me wrong, I don't believe that a 335 is in the same league as an M.

+1

Ronno111 · 02-22-2008, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammer

Hmmm ?

All these numbers sound great, but never same them real...

i had 5,9sec 0-100kmh ( 0 -62mph) on a 335i with automatic ( i guess, there is no realy difference caused by the driverskill and the conditions were good: about 20 c° and dry climate).

i still cant belive something like 4.1sec for the m3 in 0-60mph. 4,7 sounds optimistic, but 4,1-4,5 ... ? Thats the level of a 997gt3...

What means "good" conditions to you?

This topic is so dead. Look for the old post that has the car and driver comp against the c63.

The M3 did 0-60 in 4.1 secs and the C63 did 3.9. I printed the driver score sheet, it was impressive to put things mildly. 0-100 in under 10 sexs! Wow, this car is fast. Throw in the M-DCT- I am sure we will see times posted of 4.0 or less...

Hammer · 02-22-2008, 11:18 AM

Not everything, which is written, is right.

I think there is a difference between 0-60mph and 0-100kmh ( ~ 0-62mph). But .6 sec?

Many good carmagazines tell times of about 4,8 sometimes 4,7 ( very optimistic ones 4,6). But 4,1 ? Would this mean 4,4 in 0-62 mph? Can´t imagine this without tuning!

rick berry · 02-22-2008, 11:46 AM

Car and Driver just tested the M3 Sedan. Zero to 60 in 4.1! So the other 4.1 times may not have been wrong at all.

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murellus Lieutenant 12 Rep 523 Posts Drives: 22 x3m40i Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: nj/nyc iTrader: (0)	bmw consistently understates performance figures i think fastest so far reported is 4.1, but the average is around 4.3-4.4
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mkoesel Moderator 7525 Rep 19,368 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	International press material said (and still says I think) 4.8s, so its actually lower than I expected BMWUSA to set it.
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spearfisher Lieutenant 12 Rep 409 Posts Drives: C6 ZO6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: FL iTrader: (0)	yeah just like the BMW website have the 335 0-60 5.3 manual 5.5 auto and we know the clock 4.9 0-60 stock and the auto is faster than the stick BMW is always conservative with the times, I'm sure the M3 will be faster than what's posted
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Hammer Lieutenant 32 Rep 423 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany, Cologne iTrader: (0)	Hmmm ? All these numbers sound great, but never same them real... i had 5,9sec 0-100kmh ( 0 -62mph) on a 335i with automatic ( i guess, there is no realy difference caused by the driverskill and the conditions were good: about 20 c° and dry climate). i still cant belive something like 4.1sec for the m3 in 0-60mph. 4,7 sounds optimistic, but 4,1-4,5 ... ? Thats the level of a 997gt3... What means "good" conditions to you?
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Hammer Lieutenant 32 Rep 423 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Germany, Cologne iTrader: (0)	Not everything, which is written, is right. I think there is a difference between 0-60mph and 0-100kmh ( ~ 0-62mph). But .6 sec? Many good carmagazines tell times of about 4,8 sometimes 4,7 ( very optimistic ones 4,6). But 4,1 ? Would this mean 4,4 in 0-62 mph? Can´t imagine this without tuning!
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