08 vs 09, need help deciding

Macky112 · 09-06-2008, 07:27 PM

Hey everyone,

i just got an email from a dealership stating "a deal on any instock 2008 that you can't pass up"

but as you may know, I have an ordered 2009.

so it comes down to:
"base 2009 (as in totally base, cuz this is my weekend/play car, so i didnt want any options), with color combo i wanted (jet black and fox red)"

vs

"loaded 2008 (prem, tech, 19s, ipod, satellite, heated seats, metallic paint) but not the color I want (jerez and black), and 2.9% financing"

the resulting difference comes out to be only $3000 more for the 2008.

I already have the cash set aside to buy it off at once, but if I can leave it in the bank at 4.5% while taking a 2.9% financing is cool too.

so, opinions and comments needed, and thanks for reading

Michael

gadget · 09-06-2008, 08:04 PM

i'd get the loaded 08 over the base 09. No question.

Macky112 · 09-06-2008, 08:53 PM

well, my main concern is cost. so i went with a base, no option, convertible as my weekend car. so no navi on my 2009

with that said, I want to hear you guys' opinion on if it makes sense to spend $3k more to buy options i could live without.

RandyB · 09-06-2008, 09:00 PM

I would go for the base '09 because you want a pure weekend car and it's cheaper and newer to boot and is the color combo you want. Good things come to those who wait. Mine was built this week. Base plus leather, cf trim, edc and 19s.

epoints · 09-07-2008, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macky112

well, my main concern is cost. so i went with a base, no option, convertible as my weekend car. so no navi on my 2009

with that said, I want to hear you guys' opinion on if it makes sense to spend $3k more to buy options i could live without.

PM you....

spectrumphoto · 09-07-2008, 02:28 AM

Just have your dealer find something in west coast inventory that has fewer options (they are around) and then dealer trade it for you. You will have to pay transpo fees but those range between $250-750 depending on distance. There are a number of M3's out there that are considered a Level 5 (meaning that the dealership will just give it to another dealership without anything in return, most of them being more "bare" cars on the lot or +90 Days) My CA was totally willing to do a trade and still give me my $500 over invoice. He just wanted the unit sale.

Hell, ditch the 19's, cold pkg, and prem sound and there is your $3K and then some. There are a ton of Jerez in LA area. I would keep the Tech though...

Better yet, come up to my guy in Van Nuys and have a nice drive back to Irvine...

Big Windy · 09-07-2008, 02:40 AM

loaded 08. if you are going base anyway, you don't care about idrive. so take the better deal with the options.

Macky112 · 09-07-2008, 04:09 AM

well, another thing that i kinda of feel bad about

in case some kind of dealership trade happens and i get the deal for a 2008 e93 closer to my expectation, i feel bad that my previous dealership will be stuck with a no-options jet black + fox red convertible that might be hard to sell...

any ideas?

KWY91 · 09-07-2008, 06:07 AM

Ah well sad thing is, such base options aren't available here, every car comes fully loaded with everything. Lol.

mkoesel · 09-07-2008, 10:50 AM

You could also try to find a stripped down '08 E93. I know they exist because I've seen one on eBay. Like you said in your last post, such a car might be hard to move without a buyer. Thus, if there are any stripped '08s out there, they might still be available on the lot waiting for someone to snatch them up. If you could pick up a stripped '08 E93 at invoice and with 2.9% financing, man, you'd basically be stealing the car...

Macky112 · 09-07-2008, 10:59 AM

so... you guys think its ok to walk away from my ordered car?

and I am looking for answers along the line of "yes Mikey, do it!"

lol

epoints · 09-07-2008, 01:27 PM

Yes Mikey, DoIt!!!

positiveions · 09-07-2008, 01:28 PM

So what is the total price?

Macky112 · 09-07-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eatrach73

So what is the total price?

my ordered 2009 it's close to invoice

on this loaded 2008 it's below invoice

spectrumphoto · 09-08-2008, 02:24 AM

Well... I'd have to imagine if your ordered '09 is not in production yet, then your dealership could load it back up on options and just take the car as general sale unit. Or if they can't do that, then that base car would be a great Ad Teaser car to get people on the lot (you know the ones in the newspaper that have a cheap monthly payment listed)

King Tut · 09-08-2008, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macky112

so... you guys think its ok to walk away from my ordered car?

and I am looking for answers along the line of "yes Mikey, do it!"

lol

Don't do it Mikey. I feel it would be wrong, but you gotta do what you gotta do.

Sedan_Clan · 09-08-2008, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RandyB

I would go for the base '09 because you want a pure weekend car and it's cheaper and newer to boot and is the color combo you want. Good things come to those who wait. Mine was built this week. Base plus leather, cf trim, edc and 19s.

+2

allenlinjr · 09-09-2008, 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macky112

my ordered 2009 it's close to invoice

on this loaded 2008 it's below invoice

how close to invoice?
please PM me which dealer you ordered 09
i am also from Taiwan and live in Irvine
maybe we can hang out together

ColoCane · 09-09-2008, 09:53 PM

I am in the same quandry - '08 v. '09, posed similar question in Rocky Montain regional post. Got good feedback - basically iDrive 2nd generation and changes to the headrest?

Also, got e-mail here in Denver from dealer. 2.9% was only for Sedan and Convert, not Coupe.

nyc_dude · 09-10-2008, 12:47 AM

Will @ Long Beach BMW has your 2008 M3's from fully striped to fully loaded.

2008 M3 Convertible
Jet Black / Fox Red Extended Leather
Premium Package
Technology Package
19" Wheels
Heated Front Seats
Passthrough
iPod
Enhanced Premium Sound
6 speed
MSRP: $77,350
Stock Number: 8P331175

2008 M3 Coupe
Jet Black / Fox Red Leather
Premium Package
Technology Package
Moonroof
Sat Radio
iPod
Enhanced Premium Sound
6 speed
MSRP: $66,620
Stock Number: 8PY40399

2008 M3 Sedan
Jerez Black / Fox Red Extended Leather
Premium Package
Moonroof
iPod
6 speed
MSRP: $60,800
Stock Number: 8E215528

This is the thread...

www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169517

I would try to find a M3 with DCT. Plus the M3 e90/e93 financing at 2.9% is insane.

Also check Crevier BMW (40 M3's) and Southbay BMW (20 M3's).
Crevier might have a few DCT M3's and I think Southbay has a Black DCT Convertible on the roof (not in the lot).

You got a 2008 M3 below invoice in LA....WoW.

Cheers,

Macky112 · 09-10-2008, 06:06 PM

nah Will only gave me $2500 off MSRP when i emailed him over the weekend after seeing his post about "competitive pricing"

Macky112 · 09-10-2008, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by allenlinjr

how close to invoice?
please PM me which dealer you ordered 09
i am also from Taiwan and live in Irvine
maybe we can hang out together

sup man,

that makes it 3 of us, including epoints

he was telling me he found a pretty good back road in Irvine, lol

09-06-2008, 07:27 PM	#1
Macky112 newb 16 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3, 6MT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	08 vs 09, need help deciding Hey everyone, i just got an email from a dealership stating "a deal on any instock 2008 that you can't pass up" but as you may know, I have an ordered 2009. so it comes down to: "base 2009 (as in totally base, cuz this is my weekend/play car, so i didnt want any options), with color combo i wanted (jet black and fox red)" vs "loaded 2008 (prem, tech, 19s, ipod, satellite, heated seats, metallic paint) but not the color I want (jerez and black), and 2.9% financing" the resulting difference comes out to be only $3000 more for the 2008. I already have the cash set aside to buy it off at once, but if I can leave it in the bank at 4.5% while taking a 2.9% financing is cool too. so, opinions and comments needed, and thanks for reading Michael
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gadget Major 108 Rep 1,161 Posts Drives: 09 e92///M SSII DCT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: US iTrader: (0)	i'd get the loaded 08 over the base 09. No question.
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Macky112 newb 16 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3, 6MT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	well, my main concern is cost. so i went with a base, no option, convertible as my weekend car. so no navi on my 2009 with that said, I want to hear you guys' opinion on if it makes sense to spend $3k more to buy options i could live without.
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RandyB Lieutenant Colonel 20 Rep 1,504 Posts Drives: '03 330i, '09 M3 Coupe Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	I would go for the base '09 because you want a pure weekend car and it's cheaper and newer to boot and is the color combo you want. Good things come to those who wait. Mine was built this week. Base plus leather, cf trim, edc and 19s.
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09-07-2008, 02:28 AM	#6
spectrumphoto Just another peanut in the Turd! 92 Rep 598 Posts Drives: g16M850;f30M550;f80M3-ED;e90M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywierd, SoCal iTrader: (2)	Just have your dealer find something in west coast inventory that has fewer options (they are around) and then dealer trade it for you. You will have to pay transpo fees but those range between $250-750 depending on distance. There are a number of M3's out there that are considered a Level 5 (meaning that the dealership will just give it to another dealership without anything in return, most of them being more "bare" cars on the lot or +90 Days) My CA was totally willing to do a trade and still give me my $500 over invoice. He just wanted the unit sale. Hell, ditch the 19's, cold pkg, and prem sound and there is your $3K and then some. There are a ton of Jerez in LA area. I would keep the Tech though... Better yet, come up to my guy in Van Nuys and have a nice drive back to Irvine... Last edited by spectrumphoto; 09-07-2008 at 02:30 AM.. Reason: Pimpin out my CA...
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09-07-2008, 02:40 AM	#7
Big Windy Major General 152 Rep 5,124 Posts Drives: None Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	loaded 08. if you are going base anyway, you don't care about idrive. so take the better deal with the options.
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Macky112 newb 16 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3, 6MT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	well, another thing that i kinda of feel bad about in case some kind of dealership trade happens and i get the deal for a 2008 e93 closer to my expectation, i feel bad that my previous dealership will be stuck with a no-options jet black + fox red convertible that might be hard to sell... any ideas?
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09-07-2008, 06:07 AM	#9
KWY91 Major 36 Rep 1,297 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 (on order), 458 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Exeter, Devon iTrader: (3)	Ah well sad thing is, such base options aren't available here, every car comes fully loaded with everything. Lol.
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09-07-2008, 10:50 AM	#10
mkoesel Moderator 7512 Rep 19,368 Posts Drives: No BMW for now Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Canton, MI iTrader: (1)	You could also try to find a stripped down '08 E93. I know they exist because I've seen one on eBay. Like you said in your last post, such a car might be hard to move without a buyer. Thus, if there are any stripped '08s out there, they might still be available on the lot waiting for someone to snatch them up. If you could pick up a stripped '08 E93 at invoice and with 2.9% financing, man, you'd basically be stealing the car...
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09-07-2008, 10:59 AM	#11
Macky112 newb 16 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3, 6MT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	so... you guys think its ok to walk away from my ordered car? and I am looking for answers along the line of "yes Mikey, do it!" lol
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epoints Private First Class 1 Rep 111 Posts Drives: 550i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: OC iTrader: (0)	Yes Mikey, DoIt!!!
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spectrumphoto Just another peanut in the Turd! 92 Rep 598 Posts Drives: g16M850;f30M550;f80M3-ED;e90M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hollywierd, SoCal iTrader: (2)	Well... I'd have to imagine if your ordered '09 is not in production yet, then your dealership could load it back up on options and just take the car as general sale unit. Or if they can't do that, then that base car would be a great Ad Teaser car to get people on the lot (you know the ones in the newspaper that have a cheap monthly payment listed)
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09-09-2008, 09:53 PM	#19
ColoCane Second Lieutenant 9 Rep 280 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	I am in the same quandry - '08 v. '09, posed similar question in Rocky Montain regional post. Got good feedback - basically iDrive 2nd generation and changes to the headrest? Also, got e-mail here in Denver from dealer. 2.9% was only for Sedan and Convert, not Coupe.
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nyc_dude Captain 403 Rep 754 Posts Drives: 09 //M3 e90 Interlagos Blue Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (0) Garage List 2015 BMW F30 335i M ... [0.00] 2009 BMW //M3 [0.00]	Will @ Long Beach BMW has your 2008 M3's from fully striped to fully loaded. 2008 M3 Convertible Jet Black / Fox Red Extended Leather Premium Package Technology Package 19" Wheels Heated Front Seats Passthrough iPod Enhanced Premium Sound 6 speed MSRP: $77,350 Stock Number: 8P331175 2008 M3 Coupe Jet Black / Fox Red Leather Premium Package Technology Package Moonroof Sat Radio iPod Enhanced Premium Sound 6 speed MSRP: $66,620 Stock Number: 8PY40399 2008 M3 Sedan Jerez Black / Fox Red Extended Leather Premium Package Moonroof iPod 6 speed MSRP: $60,800 Stock Number: 8E215528 This is the thread... www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=169517 I would try to find a M3 with DCT. Plus the M3 e90/e93 financing at 2.9% is insane. Also check Crevier BMW (40 M3's) and Southbay BMW (20 M3's). Crevier might have a few DCT M3's and I think Southbay has a Black DCT Convertible on the roof (not in the lot). You got a 2008 M3 below invoice in LA....WoW. Cheers,
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09-10-2008, 06:06 PM	#21
Macky112 newb 16 Rep 109 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 M3, 6MT Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (0)	nah Will only gave me $2500 off MSRP when i emailed him over the weekend after seeing his post about "competitive pricing"
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