Completely off topic, but would you swap three M3s for one of these!?

Filthy Monkey · 09-26-2007, 11:59 AM

Oh, God, yes!!!

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/video.php?illustration=224

The new 430 Suderia. Let's hope the M-DCT shifts are this quick and smooth...

Now, where can I get £172,000?

shimshimhada · 09-26-2007, 12:01 PM

Hell yeah!

phoenixbmwlife · 09-26-2007, 12:24 PM

I love this car. Its been a while since a pure, race bred, and lightweight production car has excited me as much as this one.

But let me play devil's advocate a bit. Why would you have 3 new M3s? And if you have 3 new M3s you might be able to afford the 430 Scuderia AND keep the M3s as well.

lol

southlight · 09-26-2007, 12:34 PM

Oh yeah, but must be that color:

[source: roadandtrack.com ]

Best regards, south

paulyd · 09-26-2007, 12:36 PM

wow, that shit looks sick!

dechoong · 09-26-2007, 01:10 PM

Hmmm... I'll trade 2 M3 for the regular F430 and keep the 3rd M3

. The Scuderia is the successor to the Challenge Stradale, and the CS is one bloody noisy car. I've read when the conditions allow, you'll hear the CS up to 2 miles away. You'll need ear plugs driving one of these

bambam · 09-26-2007, 01:36 PM

its sound makes me horny

Los Angeles · 09-26-2007, 01:41 PM

Are you kidding?!

Trade 3 M3s for a Ferrari F430?

In a heartbeat!

Its not like everyday someone pulls up in a late-model Ferrari.

Expired · 09-26-2007, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Are you kidding?!

Trade 3 M3s for a Ferrari F430?

In a heartbeat!

Its not like everyday someone pulls up in a late-model Ferrari.

+1
Sounds extremely nice, and looks like it is tons of fun to drive.

-Nathan

Tobizach · 09-26-2007, 03:11 PM

Naw... Only guys get hot up for those look at me showy things... We're (Im) a bit more sensible like a 997 tt/gt2...

swamp2 · 09-26-2007, 04:16 PM

Yes way OT, but who can resist a reply....

Sure I would trade 3:1, would probably still be a wise choice based purely on financial considerations.

Man is that exhaust sound heaven or what?

A couple of observations. It is very interesting to note the similarities between this car and the new M3. Sure don't flame me too hard - I am not trying to make any direct comparisons, but the 4.X liter, high-reving V8 is just the begining.

Redlines at 8600, only 200 rpm more than the M3
Uses ion flow knock detection system just like the M3
Tranny gets shift times down to 60 ms. I suspect this might be a real 60 ms unlike BMW who when they quote 60-80 ms or so mean the shift time not counting the clutch operations. Either way the new M-DCT will upstage this tranny with shift times about about 20-30 ms. This box only has 6 gears as well opposed to 7 in the M-DCT
Manettino: Doesn't this sound a lot like M-drive. Not saying BMW invented this at all but their customization capabilities are very similar.
Composite bumpers are a shared design feature to reduce weight. it is very likey that the Scuderia uses composite main body components such as the roof in the M3

So be proud of the new M3 - it really is a bargain! If only it had a flat plane crank, direct injection and the same 100+ kg weight savings over its current weight...

The CSL · 09-26-2007, 06:00 PM

But that weight saving has accounted for a near-£50k price increase. I hope they can do the same on the CSL for a lot less.

Los Angeles · 09-26-2007, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobizach

Naw... Only guys get hot up for those look at me showy things... We're (Im) a bit more sensible like a 997 tt/gt2...

Ah, I think many ladies would disagree...

Mack211 · 09-26-2007, 08:07 PM

This guys is a pretty bad driver. I would love to see Tiff drive one of these.

Edit: Typo

Tobizach · 09-26-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Los Angeles

Ah, I think many ladies would disagree...

Remember now...Im talking from a Drive/owner enthusiasts non floozy level, not those spoiled gold digger high maintance status only P. Hilton wannabe types

Expired · 09-26-2007, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mack211

This guys is a pretty bad driver. Now if would love to see Tiff drive one of these

This guy is pretty bad at forming sentences.

I think I would rather have a Porsche GT3 RS + BMW M3 Sedan over it though..

-Nathan

swamp2 · 09-27-2007, 02:08 AM

An even better vid and better chorus here

Filthy Monkey · 09-27-2007, 05:17 AM

Great review. You see Chris Harris's face in the first video, when they're in the briefing. He's a real petrol head...

The CSL · 09-27-2007, 05:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Filthy Monkey

Great review. You see Chris Harris's face in the first video, when they're in the briefing. He's a real petrol head...

Something makes me think you are he...

mkoesel · 09-27-2007, 08:11 AM

No.

But I would trade in one of the M3s for an F430 drivetrain + custom "CSL homolongation" to apply to one of the other two remaining M3s.

Filthy Monkey · 09-27-2007, 09:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The CSL

Something makes me think you are he...

Don't be silly. I'm MUCH better looking than him...

JerezBlue! · 09-27-2007, 10:34 AM

All day, any day. Schumacher input - as per this week's mag- this car will be a living legend. Makes me no longer want a 997 T.

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Filthy Monkey Private First Class 27 Rep 193 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Completely off topic, but would you swap three M3s for one of these!? Oh, God, yes!!! http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/video.php?illustration=224 The new 430 Suderia. Let's hope the M-DCT shifts are this quick and smooth... Now, where can I get £172,000?
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swamp2 Lieutenant General 609 Rep 10,407 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: San Diego, CA USA iTrader: (3)	Sure Yes way OT, but who can resist a reply.... Sure I would trade 3:1, would probably still be a wise choice based purely on financial considerations. Man is that exhaust sound heaven or what? A couple of observations. It is very interesting to note the similarities between this car and the new M3. Sure don't flame me too hard - I am not trying to make any direct comparisons, but the 4.X liter, high-reving V8 is just the begining. Redlines at 8600, only 200 rpm more than the M3 Uses ion flow knock detection system just like the M3 Tranny gets shift times down to 60 ms. I suspect this might be a real 60 ms unlike BMW who when they quote 60-80 ms or so mean the shift time not counting the clutch operations. Either way the new M-DCT will upstage this tranny with shift times about about 20-30 ms. This box only has 6 gears as well opposed to 7 in the M-DCT Manettino: Doesn't this sound a lot like M-drive. Not saying BMW invented this at all but their customization capabilities are very similar. Composite bumpers are a shared design feature to reduce weight. it is very likey that the Scuderia uses composite main body components such as the roof in the M3 So be proud of the new M3 - it really is a bargain! If only it had a flat plane crank, direct injection and the same 100+ kg weight savings over its current weight...
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Mack211 Lieutenant 23 Rep 497 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 - DCT Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Fort Collins, CO iTrader: (0)	This guys is a pretty bad driver. I would love to see Tiff drive one of these. Edit: Typo Last edited by Mack211; 09-26-2007 at 09:26 PM..
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