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      01-13-2011, 09:29 AM   #1
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Question Eisenmann Race or AA Signature?

I made my decision and gonna install an aftermarket exhaust on my M3 coupe. But I still doubt between the Eisenmann race exhaust or the Active Autowerke signature exhaust. An this is where I need some help. Which exhaust would you choose and especially why? I am looking for an exhaust system that has a nice sound also in low revs.

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Both are good choices. I'd probably choose AA over Eis Race. I really like the tone of AA for a loud exhaust and I like how it gets a very unique high pitch sound as the RPMs climb.
If you wanted quieter I'd choose Eis Sport over AA.
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I went with the Eisenmann Race Black Series, just got it installed and picking up later today in fact.. There wasnt anything else I heard other than Remus that I liked as much. The Eis Race has an exotic tone and nice wail at high RPMS that really allows the personality of the S65 to come out.
I nearly bought an AA but after hearing them and hearing about the awful drone I just couldnt do it.
I've read that Eis Race also has pretty bad drone... where the Sport has none

similar to how Gintani is

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      01-13-2011, 12:40 PM   #5
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I nearly bought an AA but after hearing them and hearing about the awful drone I just couldnt do it.
You heard more drone from AA than an Eis Race?????????
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      01-13-2011, 04:15 PM   #7
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Eisenmann Race if you are certain you won't get an X-pipe. Drone is a non issue at all for me, I can't see how it bothers people. Then again i don't drive long distances on the highway. It is not too loud, after a month i wanted it to be even louder!

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Eisenmann Race if you are certain you won't get an X-pipe. Drone is a non issue at all for me, I can't see how it bothers people. Then again i don't drive long distances on the highway. It is not too loud, after a month i wanted it to be even louder!
Nothing wrong with having an eisenmann race + an x-pipe. It'll just be kinda loud.
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Nothing wrong with having an eisenmann race + an x-pipe. It'll just be kinda loud.
I just meant it might be too loud for most people and won't sound as nice as a sport exhaust with an X-pipe.
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I just meant it might be too loud for most people and won't sound as nice as a sport exhaust with an X-pipe.
yeah it would probably be a bit too loud to dd.
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Get AA! The Eisenmann Race has more drone than AA so you might want AA if you want almost non-existent drone.

I just ordered AA signature and I can't wait for it to come. I have Fabspeed X-Pipe to pair it with. Really anxious on how it will sound as nobody has this combo yet
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Get AA! The Eisenmann Race has more drone than AA so you might want AA if you want almost non-existent drone.

I just ordered AA signature and I can't wait for it to come. I have Fabspeed X-Pipe to pair it with. Really anxious on how it will sound as nobody has this combo yet
I had it for quite awhile. It sounds awesome. But I wanted something a bit more subtle after awhile so I sold it.
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It was fine around town, but I couldn't take it for long on the highway. It wasn't so much that it droned, it really only did that a little. It was just to loud to listen to a constant 3k rpm for over half hour at a time. I started looking forward to the silence when I arrived at my destination.

But around town it sounded awesome, such a smooth distinctive sound
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It was fine around town, but I couldn't take it for long on the highway. It wasn't so much that it droned, it really only did that a little. It was just to loud to listen to a constant 3k rpm for over half hour at a time. I started looking forward to the silence when I arrived at my destination.

But around town it sounded awesome, such a smooth distinctive sound
If I recall from another post, you've had many systems? What did you ultimately wind up with?

I was thinkng about an Eisenmann Sport one of these days.
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If I recall from another post, you've had many systems? What did you ultimately wind up with?

I was thinkng about an Eisenmann Sport one of these days.
I'm either up to 8 or 9 combos of systems by now..... hahaa

Currently I'm running just an Akra slip-on. It's nice, sounds pretty good, good quality, much better than OEM. Definitely louder than OEM, but very quiet on the highway. I ended up with this because the AA with fabspeed xpipe and hfc's was too loud, so I sold the AA. But then I got tired of the damn CEL that Fabspeed lies about. So I went back to OEM xpipe.

If I was to do an axle back again I'd probably just do the Eisenmann Sport (which I had previously). It's cheaper than the Akra, equal in build quality and fitment. I think the sound is slightly better. It has a bit of a fuller/richer sound than the Akra.
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I just picked up my car tonight with my eisenmann race black series and eisenmann connecting pipes and it sounds beyond amazing. Drone isnt an issue for me with this exhaust. As long as youre not lugging the engine (i.e. 6th gear at 40 mph) there really isnt drone. Just a nice rumble at low rpms to an exotic pitched scream at 4K and up.

Take it for a highway cruise for an hour or so... That's what did it for me! I loveeed my Eisie race, but it was just too much for cruising for any length of time.
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I'm either up to 8 or 9 combos of systems by now..... hahaa

Currently I'm running just an Akra slip-on. It's nice, sounds pretty good, good quality, much better than OEM. Definitely louder than OEM, but very quiet on the highway. I ended up with this because the AA with fabspeed xpipe and hfc's was too loud, so I sold the AA. But then I got tired of the damn CEL that Fabspeed lies about. So I went back to OEM xpipe.

If I was to do an axle back again I'd probably just do the Eisenmann Sport (which I had previously). It's cheaper than the Akra, equal in build quality and fitment. I think the sound is slightly better. It has a bit of a fuller/richer sound than the Akra.
Thats cool, Thanks. I think I'm sold on an Eisenmann Sport.
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I got tired of the damn CEL that Fabspeed lies about.
Can you believe that they still push that bullshit lie. The other day I called them about a BMC and for shits and giggles asked them about the CEL on the Xpipe. The answer was, "What CEL?"
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Can you believe that they still push that bullshit lie. The other day I called them about a BMC and for shits and giggles asked them about the CEL on the Xpipe. The answer was, "What CEL?"
Notice how they quickly disappeared off this forum once the CEL started popping up?
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Notice how they quickly disappeared off this forum once the CEL started popping up?
But you know what really sucks though, their build quality is phenominal. So it's unfortunate.

However, any company that tries to sell me a CEL and doesnt address it; bye bye. I wouldnt even buy a foot rest from them.
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But you know what really sucks though, their build quality is phenominal. So it's unfortunate.

However, any company that tries to sell me a CEL and doesnt address it; bye bye. I wouldnt even buy a foot rest from them.
Agreed, the xpipe is very nicely built. Fitment was spot on.
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