Anyone Drive The C63 Amg Black Series

[Sebringjetta]

EVERY VIDEO I SEE ABOUT THE C63 AMG BLACK SERIES TALKS ABOUT HOW CRAZY AND AMAZING IT IS...ANYONE DRIVE ONE AND AGREE WITH THIS?

[Flying Ace]

drives like it's got it's wheels mounted on it's sides...I'm sure it's super fun the on the streets.

Never driven one before...nor any AMG for that matter. Hope I can test one soon, at least a standard civic C63 AMG

[F1Venom]

It's a beast. I've driven multiple AMG's so I can only imagine how much more hardcore the BS is. The SLS BS is one of my favorite cars.

[BrewRifle]

I'm surprised there isn't an E92 M3 in that competition.

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by BrewRifle

I'm surprised there isn't an E92 M3 in that competition.

well they didnt want to show a 60k car beat 100k cars

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by Flying Ace

drives like it's got it's wheels mounted on it's sides...I'm sure it's super fun the on the streets.

Never driven one before...nor any AMG for that matter. Hope I can test one soon, at least a standard civic C63 AMG

Originally Posted by F1Venom

It's a beast. I've driven multiple AMG's so I can only imagine how much more hardcore the BS is. The SLS BS is one of my favorite cars.

i would love to take one for a spin!!!! the wide body is so sexy!!!!!!!!!!!

[Groundpilot]

From what i heard, they are not that fast at the track. Mainly due to the over weight and traction limited to the rear wheels only.

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

From what i heard, they are not that fast at the track. Mainly due to the over weight and traction limited to the rear wheels only.

everytime i watch reviews on it the say once traction control is off its hard to handle

[Groundpilot]

I just looked up, and black series is only 20 kg lighter than regular c63, which is a pig=3,900pounds.
Its a joke to pay so much $$$ over c63 w/ tuned engine. Basically mercedes charges $50K for 60hp and wide body kit lol.

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by Groundpilot

I just looked up, and black series is only 20 kg lighter than regular c63, which is a pig=3,900pounds.
Its a joke to pay so much $$$ over c63 w/ tuned engine. Basically mercedes charges $50K for 60hp and wide body kit lol.

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by Sebringjetta

well they didnt want to show a 60k car beat 100k cars

M3 likely wouldnt have been top 5, and def not top 3.

Actually C&D did a best handling car under 100K a couple years ago and the M3 couldnt even place top 3 in that.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

As for orig question, the C63 is a very sharp car, not much less so than the M3. In fact, its steering is a bit better. The Black Series is faster than the M3 GTS on the Ring despite a worse power to weight ratio, so yes, its a very good car.

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

M3 likely wouldnt have been top 5, and def not top 3.

Actually C&D did a best handling car under 100K a couple years ago and the M3 couldnt even place top 3 in that.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

As for orig question, the C63 is a very sharp car, not much less so than the M3. In fact, its steering is a bit better. The Black Series is faster than the M3 GTS on the Ring despite a worse power to weight ratio, so yes, its a very good car.

i meant it more as a joke sir

[GotE46M]

I would love to have one as a daily and cruise on the streets though.

[Sebringjetta]

Originally Posted by GotE46M

I would love to have one as a daily and cruise on the streets though.

ya i dont think i would want it for track use...ot sure how the wing would look though for street use kind of extreme

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by Sebringjetta

i meant it more as a joke sir

[Alex_bm]

Disagree, hated the over boosted steering on c63. One of the reasons for getting rid of it.

[Flying Ace]

personally, I think the best C63 AMG to buy would be the 2012+ models with the P31. It comes with the LSD and the MCT transmission, and you pay a little up for the 30 extra HP...mostly for bragging rights against a civic C63.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercede...SpeedShift_MCT



The C63 had some engine issues as well. Something with the Crankshaft headbolts, cams and valves. No high performance engine is bullet proof. MB actually performed the headbolt fix under warranty, and fixed the issue during production I believe in post-2011 models.

http://mbworld.org/forums/c63-amg-w2...ne-repair.html


http://www.caradvice.com.au/139550/m...ssible-defect/

http://www.autoevolution.com/news/me...res-38995.html

the thread for the headbolt issues are as long as M3post's bearings thread.

[slicer]

I haven't driven one but I did get a ride in one. It is quick; certainly quicker than an M3. It was on city streets so I can't say I gained a good sense for how it handles. It sounds great and I love how it looks. The only let down I had was the transmission. It definitely doesn't shift as quickly as DCT. Overall I didn't fall in love with enough to go through the hassle of parting out my car to get one.

[FormulaMMM]

Relevant video for those who haven't seen. One of my favorites by C. Harris.

[Ezio]

i would love to own a C63 AMG 507 or black series one day. that engine is truly one of the best things to come out of Germany these past years.

to bad everyone is leaving that style of engine.

[happos2]

Originally Posted by Wolfinwolfsclothing

M3 likely wouldnt have been top 5, and def not top 3.

Actually C&D did a best handling car under 100K a couple years ago and the M3 couldnt even place top 3 in that.

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...n-100k-feature

As for orig question, the C63 is a very sharp car, not much less so than the M3. In fact, its steering is a bit better. The Black Series is faster than the M3 GTS on the Ring despite a worse power to weight ratio, so yes, its a very good car.

After driving both of these cars on the track (stock C63), I would have to disagree that the steering is better. Someone above used "overboosted" and would agree along those lines. The car does turn well, but the feel is not that of the E9x M3. I want to drive a 2015 when it comes out because AMG has improved so much over the last few generations, I would be suprised if the feel is improved yet again!

[Wolfinwolfsclothing]

Originally Posted by happos2

After driving both of these cars on the track (stock C63), I would have to disagree that the steering is better. Someone above used "overboosted" and would agree along those lines. The car does turn well, but the feel is not that of the E9x M3. I want to drive a 2015 when it comes out because AMG has improved so much over the last few generations, I would be suprised if the feel is improved yet again!

I disagree...Ive driven them both on the track as well and actually preferred the C63, and this was a 2008 C63 let alone the LCI version, and certainly not the Black Series.

The e92 m3 never really had great steering feel. It was super boosted at low speeds, was very numb off center and in sport it was a bit too quick and artificially heavy.

AMG has improved immensely, producing some very great cars. Fact of the matter is, BMWs best M3 was outdone by a heavier, more comfortable, more GT like C63 Black Series.