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I appreciate the feedback, and please understand I am not advocating more government regulation. My point is simple, if speeding is illegal (and it is); why allow manufacturers to sell cars that go 3 times the legal limit on public roads? This isn't about education, or responsibility, or sobriety, it is about common sense. Let me give another example, while you can own a sub machine gun, you must have the proper license to do so. It is very difficult to obtain this license and strictly monitored by the ATF. Consequently, very few people have machine guns in their homes. Again, speeding is not a judgement call, it is against the law, so why is it legal to sell cars that can easily exceed the speed limit?
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I'd have to say cultural -- historically, the US has been far less likely to ban or restrict many things than many other developed nations. Additionally, there's likely some judicial precedent involved. Our court system seems more likely than many other developed nations to overturn restrictive laws, unless there is a compelling (to them) public safety reason. For instance, there's quite a few restrictions around when and how sobriety checkpoints can be implemented.
Even though guns have come up earlier in the thread as something that is strictly licensed, the fact remains it is far easier to have a gun in the US than most or maybe all developed nations, for similar reasons. Also, I think because we are a "big" country (land mass wise), and our public transit is typically far less developed than Europe for instance, many things related to driving are taken as a "right" in America, and face far fewer restrictions than other developed countries. So, to summarize, I'd say it's mostly how our judicial system approaches restrictive laws (like what you are proposing), informed by US culture and judicial precedent.
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Also, it would be far too costly (since it's a big country w/ extensive existing road infrastructure) to improve all the freeways and highways to accommodate increase in speed limit .
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The auto industry would lobby vigorously against it.
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hence why it hasn't happened yet
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Speeding isn’t the only issue for road safety – driver attitude and behaviour and road condition management are far more relevant. Opinions will always vary of course but in my observation (wont say where) its not the speed as an absolute it’s the behaviour in the conditions – recklessness is recklessness regardless of the speed. Virtually all cars are capable of exceeding the speed limit so the car nowadays is somewhat irrelevant in terms of speed capability.
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This is painting US law in broad stripes, but I think generally speaking, in the US you are presumed to have the right (whatever it is), unless there is a compelling public safety reason to deprive you of that right. Unless someone can prove that restricting cars to 80mph will lower fatalities, it is unlikely a law like that would make it through the courts. A lot of it really comes down to how a judicial system balances public good with individual good, and the US system leans toward individual good, and is usually far less restrictive on individuals, even when it might make sense.
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Is there any car that cannot do 80+ mph?
Oh yeah, maybe a Prius. Cheers.
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I've seen them go 90+ I laugh cause at 90+, they're burning more fuel than I am in 7th gear in my V8
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Being stuck to the bumper of a truck going downhill doesn't count.
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This is actually a very intriguing question, one I don't think I've ever asked myself, yet my GF asks me all the time when I say I'm going to purchase a sport's car - "Why get a sports car when you'll never go fast on the roads?" (it would be my daily driver).
I have an answer for my GF, but sadly do not have an answer to the speed limit dilemma. Possibly an older phenomena brewed from the 60/70s muscle car era that still lingers? |
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I saw one pulled over the other day... How embarrasing to get pulled over in a prius
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