Broken Valve Spring @ 2,700 Miles

SGM3forME · 04-08-2013, 11:58 PM

This past weekend after less than 4 months and about 2,700 miles, my 2013 E92 suddenly threw an Engine Malfuntion and Increased Emissions warning. I immediately brought it to my local dealer and today my SA informed me that I have a broken valve spring on cylinder #8. Evidently the part is on back-order so I'm facing at least a week of waiting and driving a loaner (I was fortunate to get a brand new 528i). Any thoughts and/or advice? Up until this weekend, I have been ecstatic with the car.

kerrit · 04-09-2013, 12:28 AM

probably a manufacturing defect

SGM3forME · 04-09-2013, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Lute

Proper break-in?

Yes...practically babied it during break in.

Sandye90m3 · 04-09-2013, 01:10 AM

I don't think breaking-in could have been a result of of this...lol

apecush · 04-09-2013, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kerrit

probably a manufacturing defect

yep, shit happens. that's what warranties are for.

bobs619 · 04-09-2013, 02:34 AM

is the lemon law still in effect in this situation?

serranot · 04-09-2013, 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by bobs619

is the lemon law still in effect in this situation?

Most lemon laws require multiple failures of the same part. It was never in effect in this situation.

SGM3forME · 04-09-2013, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by serranot

Most lemon laws require multiple failures of the same part. It was never in effect in this situation.

Yes, multiple failures or more than 30 days out of service because of the repair...still TBD at this point.

Ezio · 04-09-2013, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobs619

is the lemon law still in effect in this situation?

I dont think you know what the lemon law is.

SHADY1 · 04-09-2013, 11:45 AM

I had the #7 Valve Spring break on my M3 but it was at 40,000+ miles and was covered under warranty as well. I have 88,000+ miles on my M3 now no other problems since then so you should be good once your car is fixed

mdosu · 04-09-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SHADY1

I had the #7 Valve Spring break on my M3 but it was at 40,000+ miles and was covered under warranty as well. I have 88,000+ miles on my M3 now no other problems since then so you should be good once your car is fixed

What's the bill for this fix? I'm aware most ppl are getting this fixed under warranty, but they usually quote you billable hours and price for their billing purposes to BMW corporate.

mdosu · 04-09-2013, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Lute

Proper break-in?

likely not a break-in effect. This is the 2nd most common issue with our M3s.

Mr. ///M3 RD · 04-09-2013, 12:07 PM

on my e46 2002 (my very first m3) driver side rear spring broke in 2010 (after some 60K + KM approx. 37K miles). The new owner one year later had to replace the passenger side rear spring. This is the first time I see a spring brake here on this e9x forum.

I venture to guess it may be a manufacturing flaw (this can be established by the dealership - or some knowledgeable individual that has access to [NDT] Non-Destructive Testing). However, it might also be due to road conditions, springs can take a lot of abuse, then they also have a braking point.

Wow ... My bad ... do ignore this cleaning my glasses ...

jusbwn · 04-09-2013, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. ///M3 RD

on my e46 2002 (my very first m3) driver side rear spring broke in 2010 (after some 60K + KM approx. 37K miles). The new owner one year later had to replace the passenger side rear spring. This is the first time I see a spring brake here on this forum.

I venture to guess it may be a manufacturing flaw (this can be established by the dealership - or some knowledgeable individual that has access to NDT Non-destructive testing). However, it might also be due to road conditions, springs can take a lot of abuse, then they also have a braking point.

^^ valve spring

W/// · 04-09-2013, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. ///M3 RD

on my e46 2002 (my very first m3) driver side rear spring broke in 2010 (after some 60K + KM approx. 37K miles). The new owner one year later had to replace the passenger side rear spring. This is the first time I see a spring brake here on this e9x forum.

I venture to guess it may be a manufacturing flaw (this can be established by the dealership - or some knowledgeable individual that has access to [NDT] Non-Destructive Testing). However, it might also be due to road conditions, springs can take a lot of abuse, then they also have a braking point.

Valve spring in the engine, not the suspension

BPMSport · 04-09-2013, 12:20 PM

Wow... unfortunate to see manufacturing flaws like this.

Mr. ///M3 RD · 04-09-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jusbwn

^^ valve spring

Quote:

Originally Posted by W///

Valve spring in the engine, not the suspension

Thanks fellows ... my bad ... cleaning my glasses

SGM3forME · 04-09-2013, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHADY1

I had the #7 Valve Spring break on my M3 but it was at 40,000+ miles and was covered under warranty as well. I have 88,000+ miles on my M3 now no other problems since then so you should be good once your car is fixed

Thanks, that's encouraging to know. Sick ride btw...

italyix · 04-09-2013, 02:22 PM

I had the same issue at ~58k miles, broken valve spring. Replaced it under warranty BUT took 4 weeks to get the part from Germany. Meanwhile, I was enjoying the loaner

SGM3forME · 04-09-2013, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mdosu

What's the bill for this fix? I'm aware most ppl are getting this fixed under warranty, but they usually quote you billable hours and price for their billing purposes to BMW corporate.

I can definitely ask once when I pick up my car...will update you.

W/// · 04-09-2013, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by italyix

I had the same issue at ~58k miles, broken valve spring. Replaced it under warranty BUT took 4 weeks to get the part from Germany. Meanwhile, I was enjoying the loaner

At 58k huh? So I'm assuming SES? What codes did it throw? Any idea how much work it was to replace?

mdosu · 04-09-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. ///M3 RD

on my e46 2002 (my very first m3) driver side rear spring broke in 2010 (after some 60K + KM approx. 37K miles). The new owner one year later had to replace the passenger side rear spring. This is the first time I see a spring brake here on this e9x forum.

I venture to guess it may be a manufacturing flaw (this can be established by the dealership - or some knowledgeable individual that has access to [NDT] Non-Destructive Testing). However, it might also be due to road conditions, springs can take a lot of abuse, then they also have a braking point.

Wow ... My bad ... do ignore this cleaning my glasses ...

lol... maybe you need a long drive to clear your head.

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