Won ebay auction at 60K for E90 M3, BMW of Lincoln refusing to honor

CaribooLou · 03-24-2008, 05:29 PM

Congrats man, i posted this on an ls1 forum late last night, many responses...

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888539

paologaspar · 03-24-2008, 05:29 PM

Dooma, glad to see that it seems to all be going your way!! I've only been reading this thread for <12hrs, but it has been an awesome story nonetheless. Can't wait to see what stipulations the dealer puts forth

ygtbsm94 · 03-24-2008, 05:31 PM

Was this the same ArtM3 from M3forum.com?

X6WouldBeNice · 03-24-2008, 05:31 PM

Let me just say how mad I was to read this. I was very upset that they would do that. Dealers are very shady. I have an 04' Maxima (yes it is not a BMW but I joined because I wanted to type this) and my dealer is awful as well. They are the "best" in New Jersey however they suck. I've taken my car in under warranty numerous times and then they say nothing is wrong. Then something happens and I'm forced to call corporate and now they have to pay for my repairs...hmmm.

Anyway..just wanted to let you know I called Michael Barrett & left him a very nasty anonymous message yesterday pressuring him to sell it to you (if your reading this Barrett..hope you liked the message) and I wrote a very nasty anonymous email to them. Glad that everyone came together and I truly hope this $60k M3 Sedan is finalized. What an excellent car. Good luck with it. Hope your satisfied...I know we all are!

X6WouldBeNice · 03-24-2008, 05:34 PM

Also, after having read the replies above about them possibly shill bidding their auctions..I am going to investigate it. I have been on eBay for almost 10 years and know eBay like the back of my hand. I will then report any findings to eBay and they will be forced to have their dealer account suspended. What sweet revenge that would be.... You getting the M3 for $60k AND them getting their eBay account suspended..lol! BMW of Lincoln...better watch your backs!

spikes111 · 03-24-2008, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ygtbsm94

Was this the same ArtM3 from M3forum.com?

Yea

Unbelievable that he's a moderator over there

I guess once he steps outside of his role of a moderator he gets all potty mouthed and feels he can act himself and insult others.

Dooma: congrats!! Let us know what conditions there are.

X6WouldBeNice · 03-24-2008, 05:36 PM

Maybe I should consider bidding $60k for their 05' 325ci they have listed on eBay right now and once I win I'll just let them know it was a slight mistake and not to worry that I won't be able to buy it from them.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3...QQcmdZViewItem

(sorry for the 3 posts in a row Moderator)

NavNurs · 03-24-2008, 05:36 PM

I am holding out on the congrats until I see pics of Dooma and his car. This may be a ploy to steal some momentum from the story. We all think it is over and then the contigency ends up costing him 6K.

OBI_agent · 03-24-2008, 05:36 PM

Congrats bro and

to the people who helped him out. You guys rock

!

CD7 · 03-24-2008, 05:45 PM

It was 7 am in the morning here in Estonia, when I found this on the 2nd page of reddit. Been reading all day and finally got to the last page by now > half past midnight.

1st congrats dooma > you are just gonna love that car.

2nd > awesome post. Really interesting to read. The legal facts, interesting points about different aspects + some fun + slander

3rd > being a marketing, PR student - Since there are 2 BMW dealers in Nebraska - As the head of the marketing department of the other dealer, I would have just offered you one M3 with everything you wanted in the 1st place(right color etc.) for $60K or even cheaper. Just for the publicity alone. The other dealer would be double F'ed this way and you would have gotten an even better deal.

ygtbsm94 · 03-24-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikes111

Yea

Unbelievable that he's a moderator over there

I guess once he steps outside of his role of a moderator he gets all potty mouthed and feels he can act himself and insult others.

Dooma: congrats!! Let us know what conditions there are.

Shocking that someone would not support Dooma with all of these facts!

Congratulations Dooma once all of the conditions are finalized!!

X6WouldBeNice · 03-24-2008, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laszlo

I wonder if eBay ever responded to Dooma in person. And if they're going to investigate this. I'm sure they wouldn't share this information with us, but it sure would help their credibility. I've always had a problem trusting some sellers on eBay.

Lazlo,

eBay doesn't truly care about their sellers. They recently enforced new policies which is already hurting sellers. There was an eBay Boycott for an entire week and eBay knew they were in trouble so they went ahead and made a 1 cent listing week to recover from their losses. A close friend of mine used to be a Top 100 PowerSeller on eBay ($3 million profit/year after $60,000 eBay fees a month..YES AN M3 PER MONTH IN EBAY FEES) and they were very rude to him and even threw him off eBay! They threw him off because they made an excuse that he was tampering with eBay although he never did any of that.

All in all, he is back on and they do not know that. But eBay just doesn't care about the sellers. They are horrible.

near lincoln · 03-24-2008, 05:51 PM

I live in seward 25 miles west of lincoln. I just called husker auto and a guy on the sales floor is telling me that they are honoring the ebay deal, not that they have to but they are. He said that they had there lawyers in there today and were told that they did not have to honor the auction because it was a mistake. but he did tell me that yes it is taken care of and the guy from california is going to get his car.

WBowie · 03-24-2008, 06:03 PM

Just joined to read the whole thread.. was directed here from www.nasyz28.com

Glad to see things got resolved.

Only thing I can add is that for the sake of Dooma..people should immediately STOP calling or e-mailing the dealership.

This does not help Dooma and could jeopardize the sale if the dealer decides to go back to playing hardball.

hapybrian · 03-24-2008, 06:18 PM

Woo Hoo!

Hurray for the internet community!

We're all anxiously awaiting the "conditions" details...

everyone in socal s2ki is watching and rooting for ya.

acidtrunks · 03-24-2008, 06:23 PM

anyways i got your attention,fil has wisely decided to remove the video of himself at huskerbmw.com a rather good call i would say. but yeah lets all just hope this goes smoother than the dealership made it be

mercury187 · 03-24-2008, 06:35 PM

Wow that is alot of reading to jump into late, came from fark.com
As an Ebay seller, Dooma is very much in the right and mooseman is obviously from the dealership. His point of view is not valid, you cannot rip off sellers on Ebay. As a seller, you pick a starting price and set a reserve or don't set one. For example, I put my 100$ worth of aquarium equipment on ebay with a starting price of $10. I did this just as the dealer did in hopes people bidding it up. It was only bid up to 50$, unlike this dealership I did not tell the buyer sorry you didnt pay enough money and the price was a mistake. It's stated in ebays terms that its a contract, you wouldnt take your car to an auction house and when only 1 person bids the opening bid you dont jump into the car and gun it off the lot because you didnt want to sell it for that cheap, same thing with ebay.
Glad Dooma did get the car it sounds like. Fight these assholes to the death, you won fair and square according to ebay policy. They shouldnt list cars without a reserve if they truly dont want to let them go for a lower price.

Also with this post here:
"Specifically look at the "r***c" bidder. He bid on the GTO and the M3 auctions.

Then we have that "5***i" guy who bid on all 3 BMW auctions...

Look suspicious to me."

Not sure if someone cleared that up but ebay is now protecting the userid's of bidders, if you look at all auctions now it will have those kinds of userids listed in the bid history now.

nusevad · 03-24-2008, 06:35 PM

Congrats dooma350!

Im glad to hear Lincoln lived up to the deal.

I believe you just got the best deal ever for a brand new M3!

eurospek · 03-24-2008, 06:35 PM

And the OP should be updating with updates in the first post, there are way too many replies here just to fish out his updates.

C4talyst · 03-24-2008, 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArtPE

this is sad...a representation of all that is wrong with MY Country...
a bunch of parisites feeding on a mistake...

You're a parasite who obviously can't read. The only "mistake" the dealer made was trying to screw the OP out of a car he legally won at auction. Lincoln BMW knew exactly what they were doing when the created an auction w/ no reserve.

Instead of being lazy and displaying your ignorance, read the entire thread next time and make an educated contribution.

BossEvoVIII · 03-24-2008, 06:51 PM

Signing in From Evowned.com......

Cant believe I read every single page haha

But Congrats dooma on the greatest deal for a brand spanking new M3!!!!!!

Awaiting the "Conditions" there suppose to give you.

nusevad · 03-24-2008, 06:53 PM

wow! I love the diversity of everyone signing on!

Lol welcome all!

03-24-2008, 05:29 PM	#815
CaribooLou Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 1995 Pontiac Firebird Transam Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland iTrader: (0)	Congrats man, i posted this on an ls1 forum late last night, many responses... http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=888539
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03-24-2008, 05:29 PM	#816
paologaspar Enlisted Member 0 Rep 38 Posts Drives: nissan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: vancouver iTrader: (0)	Dooma, glad to see that it seems to all be going your way!! I've only been reading this thread for <12hrs, but it has been an awesome story nonetheless. Can't wait to see what stipulations the dealer puts forth
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03-24-2008, 05:31 PM	#817
ygtbsm94 Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: 2008 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Blacksburg, VA iTrader: (0)	Was this the same ArtM3 from M3forum.com?
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03-24-2008, 05:31 PM	#818
X6WouldBeNice New Member 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 07' Mercedes C230, 04' Maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Let me just say how mad I was to read this. I was very upset that they would do that. Dealers are very shady. I have an 04' Maxima (yes it is not a BMW but I joined because I wanted to type this) and my dealer is awful as well. They are the "best" in New Jersey however they suck. I've taken my car in under warranty numerous times and then they say nothing is wrong. Then something happens and I'm forced to call corporate and now they have to pay for my repairs...hmmm. Anyway..just wanted to let you know I called Michael Barrett & left him a very nasty anonymous message yesterday pressuring him to sell it to you (if your reading this Barrett..hope you liked the message) and I wrote a very nasty anonymous email to them. Glad that everyone came together and I truly hope this $60k M3 Sedan is finalized. What an excellent car. Good luck with it. Hope your satisfied...I know we all are!
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03-24-2008, 05:34 PM	#819
X6WouldBeNice New Member 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 07' Mercedes C230, 04' Maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Also, after having read the replies above about them possibly shill bidding their auctions..I am going to investigate it. I have been on eBay for almost 10 years and know eBay like the back of my hand. I will then report any findings to eBay and they will be forced to have their dealer account suspended. What sweet revenge that would be.... You getting the M3 for $60k AND them getting their eBay account suspended..lol! BMW of Lincoln...better watch your backs!
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03-24-2008, 05:36 PM	#821
X6WouldBeNice New Member 0 Rep 18 Posts Drives: 07' Mercedes C230, 04' Maxima Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Maybe I should consider bidding $60k for their 05' 325ci they have listed on eBay right now and once I win I'll just let them know it was a slight mistake and not to worry that I won't be able to buy it from them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BMW-3...QQcmdZViewItem (sorry for the 3 posts in a row Moderator)
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03-24-2008, 05:36 PM	#822
NavNurs First Lieutenant 13 Rep 308 Posts Drives: E92 / S2000 beater Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: San Diego iTrader: (0)	I am holding out on the congrats until I see pics of Dooma and his car. This may be a ploy to steal some momentum from the story. We all think it is over and then the contigency ends up costing him 6K.
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03-24-2008, 05:36 PM	#823
OBI_agent D to the X to the B! 345 Rep 2,106 Posts Drives: ABS,American bargain supercar Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dubai iTrader: (0)	Congrats bro and to the people who helped him out. You guys rock! __________________ 11 corvette C6
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03-24-2008, 05:45 PM	#824
CD7 Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: 850 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Tallinn iTrader: (0)	It was 7 am in the morning here in Estonia, when I found this on the 2nd page of reddit. Been reading all day and finally got to the last page by now > half past midnight. 1st congrats dooma > you are just gonna love that car. 2nd > awesome post. Really interesting to read. The legal facts, interesting points about different aspects + some fun + slander 3rd > being a marketing, PR student - Since there are 2 BMW dealers in Nebraska - As the head of the marketing department of the other dealer, I would have just offered you one M3 with everything you wanted in the 1st place(right color etc.) for $60K or even cheaper. Just for the publicity alone. The other dealer would be double F'ed this way and you would have gotten an even better deal.
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03-24-2008, 05:51 PM	#827
near lincoln Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: jeep Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: nebraska iTrader: (0)	bwm m3 I live in seward 25 miles west of lincoln. I just called husker auto and a guy on the sales floor is telling me that they are honoring the ebay deal, not that they have to but they are. He said that they had there lawyers in there today and were told that they did not have to honor the auction because it was a mistake. but he did tell me that yes it is taken care of and the guy from california is going to get his car.
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03-24-2008, 06:03 PM	#828
WBowie Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: NONE Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbia, SC iTrader: (0)	Just joined to read the whole thread.. was directed here from www.nasyz28.com Glad to see things got resolved. Only thing I can add is that for the sake of Dooma..people should immediately STOP calling or e-mailing the dealership. This does not help Dooma and could jeopardize the sale if the dealer decides to go back to playing hardball.
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03-24-2008, 06:18 PM	#829
hapybrian Visitor From s2ki 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: Silverstone S2000 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Woo Hoo! Hurray for the internet community! We're all anxiously awaiting the "conditions" details... everyone in socal s2ki is watching and rooting for ya.
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03-24-2008, 06:23 PM	#830
acidtrunks Enlisted Member 0 Rep 49 Posts Drives: 93 honda accord Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: oklahoma city iTrader: (0)	anyways i got your attention,fil has wisely decided to remove the video of himself at huskerbmw.com a rather good call i would say. but yeah lets all just hope this goes smoother than the dealership made it be
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03-24-2008, 06:35 PM	#831
mercury187 Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 540i Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: WA state iTrader: (0)	Wow that is alot of reading to jump into late, came from fark.com As an Ebay seller, Dooma is very much in the right and mooseman is obviously from the dealership. His point of view is not valid, you cannot rip off sellers on Ebay. As a seller, you pick a starting price and set a reserve or don't set one. For example, I put my 100$ worth of aquarium equipment on ebay with a starting price of $10. I did this just as the dealer did in hopes people bidding it up. It was only bid up to 50$, unlike this dealership I did not tell the buyer sorry you didnt pay enough money and the price was a mistake. It's stated in ebays terms that its a contract, you wouldnt take your car to an auction house and when only 1 person bids the opening bid you dont jump into the car and gun it off the lot because you didnt want to sell it for that cheap, same thing with ebay. Glad Dooma did get the car it sounds like. Fight these assholes to the death, you won fair and square according to ebay policy. They shouldnt list cars without a reserve if they truly dont want to let them go for a lower price. Also with this post here: "Specifically look at the "r*c" bidder. He bid on the GTO and the M3 auctions. Then we have that "5*i" guy who bid on all 3 BMW auctions... Look suspicious to me." Not sure if someone cleared that up but ebay is now protecting the userid's of bidders, if you look at all auctions now it will have those kinds of userids listed in the bid history now.
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03-24-2008, 06:35 PM	#832
nusevad O! So Sour!! 552 Rep 15,615 Posts Drives: Fast 240z / Slow M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 'Merica! iTrader: (24) Garage List 1971 Datsun 240z [0.00] 2008 M3 [9.60]	Congrats dooma350! Im glad to hear Lincoln lived up to the deal. I believe you just got the best deal ever for a brand new M3! __________________
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03-24-2008, 06:35 PM	#833
eurospek Second Lieutenant 14 Rep 294 Posts Drives: Mk7 GTI Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Chicago iTrader: (0)	And the OP should be updating with updates in the first post, there are way too many replies here just to fish out his updates.
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03-24-2008, 06:51 PM	#835
BossEvoVIII Registered 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: 2005 Evolution VIII Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: New York; Ohio iTrader: (0)	Signing in From Evowned.com...... Cant believe I read every single page haha But Congrats dooma on the greatest deal for a brand spanking new M3!!!!!! Awaiting the "Conditions" there suppose to give you.
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03-24-2008, 06:53 PM	#836
nusevad O! So Sour!! 552 Rep 15,615 Posts Drives: Fast 240z / Slow M3 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: 'Merica! iTrader: (24) Garage List 1971 Datsun 240z [0.00] 2008 M3 [9.60]	wow! I love the diversity of everyone signing on! Lol welcome all! __________________
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