Well....it happened....

Robwe46m3 · 10-14-2009, 03:39 PM

Please keep us all Posted I've Purchased Fabspeed Resonated HFC & X-pie because of NO CEL !

I'm wondering if anyone on here has accumulated a substantial amount of miles with this setup?

powertrip · 10-14-2009, 03:44 PM

My coworker doesn't post on this forum, but his Fabspeed HFC's triggered those same two codes after 2500 miles. This is a risk you take when installing any brand of HFC's

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Robo Squirrel · 10-14-2009, 03:53 PM

right i had about 2000 miles on mine when my car coded. we will see if it codes again

powertrip · 10-14-2009, 04:00 PM

My Encores never coded in 2500 miles, but I'm sure it was just a matter of time

. I had Powerchip disable the sensors when they tuned my car, so now I'll never know.

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Originally Posted by Robo Squirrel

right i had about 2000 miles on mine when my car coded. we will see if it codes again

TOOMANYCARS · 10-14-2009, 04:15 PM

Sorry to hear. I guess I'm on a look out for mine also, since I'm only a few hundred miles off 2k. Anybody got any fix for the 2 codes?

Robwe46m3 · 10-14-2009, 04:16 PM

Ghey ! Fabspeed what is you Policy regarding this? I bought your setup for No CEL. I dont want/ need the F'in hassle of CEL

Robo Squirrel · 10-14-2009, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

Sorry to hear. I guess I'm on a look out for mine also, since I'm only a few hundred miles off 2k. Anybody got any fix for the 2 codes?

delete em with a scan tool, lol

Lemans_Blue_M · 10-14-2009, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

Sorry to hear. I guess I'm on a look out for mine also, since I'm only a few hundred miles off 2k. Anybody got any fix for the 2 codes?

Software ($$$)

Rear 02 sensor code delete...

Fabspeeds HFC cats are still your best bet to avoid triggering a SES light. (for a very good reason)

There is no need to panic at this point guys. There is no definitive evidence to suggest there is a serious problem here.

The 200-cell HJS cats that Fabspeed uses on their mid-pipe, is probably right on the edge in regards to tricking the ECU into thinking the stock cats are still in place. Any small variance (or blip) in the AFR's, could cause a momentary change in the emissions levels. It doesn't take much to trigger a cat deficiency SES light. (even the OE cats do this on rare occasion)

Fabspeeds HFC's flow more exhaust gas cfm than stock, so an infrequent SES light every few thousand miles is not the end of the world.

Just clear the code, and move on. Some of you guys are being just a bit unreasonable here...

The other HFC alternatives on the market will code much sooner. (and a lot more often)

Again, for a very good reason...

Robwe46m3 · 10-14-2009, 07:55 PM

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There is no need to panic at this point guys. There is no definitive evidence to suggest there is a serious problem here.

Just clear the code, and move on. Some of you guys are being just a bit unreasonable here...

The other HFC alternatives on the market will code much sooner. (and a lot more often)

Again, for a very good reason...

WTF? You work for Fabspeed? The product is advertised as NO CEL!

It is not advertised as " clear code every xxxx miles ". I dont think I'm the only one who wouldn't bother with this product if I thought there would be these headaches. It seems Fabspeed tested their M3 mule around the block got no CEL and quickly brought this product to market without long-term testing.

Many here don't own a code reader, nor do they ever have any intentions on ever purchasing one.

J08M3 · 10-14-2009, 07:59 PM

I wonder if type of gas can have any effect on this? Anyone know?

TOOMANYCARS · 10-14-2009, 08:17 PM

Don't get me wrong, Fabspeed makes some of the nicest products on the market, and in terms of value, it's just hard to beat. However, what some people are saying is true, it does advertise with the fact that it WON'T trigger any CEL. I don't mind carrying a scanner with me, but it's not something I have to do to begin with, if Fabspeed had tested its products for the M3 for a long period of time.

Singletrack · 10-14-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Robwe46m3

WTF? You work for Fabspeed? The product is advertised as NO CEL!

It is not advertised as " clear code every xxxx miles ". I dont think I'm the only one who wouldn't bother with this product if I thought there would be these headaches. It seems Fabspeed tested their M3 mule around the block got no CEL and quickly brought this product to market without long-term testing.

Many here don't own a code reader, nor do they ever have any intentions on ever purchasing one.

It does not "seem" that way to me. 1 car. Don't even know if it's the exhaust. Fabspeed never claimed to have "long term testing" (that I saw).

I would advise you to stay stock if a CEL ruins your day.

Cali convertible · 10-15-2009, 12:40 AM

CEL for me also but it took awhile. It stayed on for 2 weeks and went off and then it came back again and now it is off, increased emmissions code. O well. I guess a free card reader should have came with the x-pipe.

TOOMANYCARS · 10-15-2009, 03:31 PM

I guess we will have to wait for somebody comes out with a mechanical solution.

powertrip · 10-15-2009, 03:37 PM

Sorry to hear pal

. At least the new found power helps a bit

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Originally Posted by Cali convertible

CEL for me also but it took awhile. It stayed on for 2 weeks and went off and then it came back again and now it is off, increased emmissions code. O well. I guess a free card reader should have came with the x-pipe.

DevJ · 10-20-2009, 08:51 PM

Was this issue resolved? I don't really want to have CELs..

DevJ · 10-22-2009, 05:10 PM

bump for an answer..

RGuard250 · 10-24-2009, 05:47 AM

Does FabSpeed have an answer for this?

Moxie · 10-24-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TOOMANYCARS

Don't get me wrong, Fabspeed makes some of the nicest products on the market, and in terms of value, it's just hard to beat. However, what some people are saying is true, it does advertise with the fact that it WON'T trigger any CEL. I don't mind carrying a scanner with me, but it's not something I have to do to begin with, if Fabspeed had tested its products for the M3 for a long period of time.

Think it's questionable in terms of value. Especially if it gives a CEL.

Think Akrapovic would be better in terms of value, but it's an individual decision.

RGuard250 · 10-24-2009, 07:45 AM

I agree, I was dead set on Fabspeed with an exhaust. But HFC seems to throw a code, then Akrapovic is hands down the best.

Jeremy@Fabspeed · 10-25-2009, 07:15 PM

What are the codes that you guys are throwing?

Lemans_Blue_M · 10-25-2009, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy@Fabspeed

What are the codes that you guys are throwing?

Fault Code: P0420 = Catalyst system effciency below threshold. (Bank #1)

Fault Code: P0430 = Catalyst system effciency below threshold. (Bank #2)

10-14-2009, 03:39 PM	#23
Robwe46m3 Banned 16 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 Ruby Blk M3 Individua Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 2010 Olymipiads iTrader: (0)	Please keep us all Posted I've Purchased Fabspeed Resonated HFC & X-pie because of NO CEL ! I'm wondering if anyone on here has accumulated a substantial amount of miles with this setup?
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powertrip Scared money don't make money. 67 Rep 1,448 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (3) Garage List 2009 E92 M3 [0.00]	My coworker doesn't post on this forum, but his Fabspeed HFC's triggered those same two codes after 2500 miles. This is a risk you take when installing any brand of HFC's . __________________ 2009 E92 M3/DCT/Alpine White/Fox Red/Carbon Leather OE Tuned 402 whp & 303 wtq/Gintani X-pipe/MXP Axle Back/Rogue Pulley/AFE Stage 2/Cosmetics By IND & EAS HUGE THANKS: Gintani, OE Tuning, and EAS
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10-14-2009, 03:53 PM	#25
Robo Squirrel Major 70 Rep 1,008 Posts Drives: 991.2 GT3 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: MI iTrader: (1)	right i had about 2000 miles on mine when my car coded. we will see if it codes again __________________
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TOOMANYCARS Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: V.O.W iTrader: (0)	Sorry to hear. I guess I'm on a look out for mine also, since I'm only a few hundred miles off 2k. Anybody got any fix for the 2 codes? __________________ Everything is work in progress.
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Robwe46m3 Banned 16 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 2010 E92 Ruby Blk M3 Individua Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: 2010 Olymipiads iTrader: (0)	Ghey ! Fabspeed what is you Policy regarding this? I bought your setup for No CEL. I dont want/ need the F'in hassle of CEL
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J08M3 Major General 285 Rep 6,007 Posts Drives: 2011 M3 COUPE Join Date: May 2008 Location: NEW YORK iTrader: (8)	I wonder if type of gas can have any effect on this? Anyone know? __________________
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10-14-2009, 08:17 PM	#33
TOOMANYCARS Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: V.O.W iTrader: (0)	Don't get me wrong, Fabspeed makes some of the nicest products on the market, and in terms of value, it's just hard to beat. However, what some people are saying is true, it does advertise with the fact that it WON'T trigger any CEL. I don't mind carrying a scanner with me, but it's not something I have to do to begin with, if Fabspeed had tested its products for the M3 for a long period of time. __________________ Everything is work in progress.
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10-15-2009, 12:40 AM	#35
Cali convertible Cali convertible 11 Rep 72 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 DCT convertible Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Livermore, Ca iTrader: (0)	CEL for me also but it took awhile. It stayed on for 2 weeks and went off and then it came back again and now it is off, increased emmissions code. O well. I guess a free card reader should have came with the x-pipe.
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TOOMANYCARS Second Lieutenant 2 Rep 221 Posts Drives: 2009 E92 M3 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: V.O.W iTrader: (0)	I guess we will have to wait for somebody comes out with a mechanical solution. __________________ Everything is work in progress.
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10-20-2009, 08:51 PM	#38
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RGuard250 Titanium TCP 7 Rep 168 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Honolulu iTrader: (0)	I agree, I was dead set on Fabspeed with an exhaust. But HFC seems to throw a code, then Akrapovic is hands down the best.
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10-25-2009, 07:15 PM	#43
Jeremy@Fabspeed Private 5 Rep 57 Posts Drives: Porsche Join Date: May 2009 Location: Ambler iTrader: (0)	What are the codes that you guys are throwing?
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